Circles Thai - Collingswood, NJ

Affordable, yummy food! I came here with a girlfriend, and it was the perfect BYOB spot. We had the crab Rangoon, which was spicier than what you may get at a takeout place, but delicious. I had the pineapple curry without any added spice. It was the perfect level of heat for my sensitive pallet. The pork was slightly under seasoned, but still good. The servers were incredibly kind and friendly. This is a spot that has great value for what you get. I would definitely return!

We ordered 3 gluten free pad see ewes with vegetables and 2 red curries with vegetables. We walked to the park to eat It first. I was disappointed over the portion size. The to go containers were only half full. That’s pretty common so moving on. Then I started eating the pad see ew and it was all way over salted and the noodles were very slimy. Tasted like overcooked in oil. The red curry tasted spicy (ordered mild) and much too sweet as though sugar was added. Both dishes the flavors did not have any depth or complexity from my experience. Maybe they had a bad night.

Amazing experience at this restaurant. Staff is so friendly and accommodating. Cannot stress enough, FANTASTIC service. Food also so good and will be coming back often :) I highly recommend it to anyone in the area

Love this place literally! this food makes me soo happy. Its so good.The service is amazing the people are so nice,

SO GOOD. Ordered the Red Curry (medium) which definitely had some heat to it. Id likely order mild in the future but the flavor was so good. The Pad Thai was also amazing!

The food was so so delicious, the staff was super friendly, and we had a great time overall. LOVED IT. Highly recommend to everyone! :)

Had my 62nd birthday here and loved it. Food was excellent and prepared beautifully! Sorry I didn't take a pic. Had Tamarind duck and it was Fab! Will be returning!

Best Thai food i've had in a long time! Ask them to make it Thai hot! 🥵 Friendly, courteous seating and some outside seating convenient to parking garage across the street.

I came to the area to find one of my favorite Indian places closed. With no place to go we decided on Thai food. There's another place in the area but we chose this spot by default because they actually have a website with their menu online and the other place didn't. I don't want to have to hunt, go to facebook or anything else extra to read a menu and order food. That being said this place look pretty good. I was surprised to see a stir fry option that came with peanut sauce (Amazing stir fry). That option pretty much won me over. The location is in a nice area just of the main drag on a little side street. The parking is limited. The place was nice and pretty clean. The customer service was very friendly. We ordered our food to go and they turned it out pretty quick. I got their version of Tom Kha soup which they do not complicate on the menu they just list it as coconut soup. I also got their Amazing stir fry as mentioned above. For an appetizer we got Seitan rolls. My husband got the Crispy Red Snapper and a Thai Iced Tea. Their prices were also pretty reasonable our total was just under $60. Now on to the food, my husband said his snapper was ok, the Thai tea was good, the seitan rolls were ok as was everything else. My honest opinion is that this is the fast food version of Thai food. It wasn't the best but it wasn't the worst. The coconut milk soup was a bit too salty and not as deeply flavorful as I'm use too. The Amazing stir fry was almost there but the problem is their peanut sauce isn't that great and it's too much stir fry water in the container so it waters the peanut sauce down making it almost flavorless. I can't say that I would run here to try it again but if I was in the area I wouldn't be opposed to stopping and grabbing a quick bite. I think with some small improvements the food could be better but this is not in my personal opinion giving traditional Thai flavors like I've gotten from the many other Thai restaurants that I frequent.

My favorite Thai spot in town! The Thai rolls are so delicious & the drunken noodles are out of this world good.

The food is always amazing. It's quick service and friendly staff. Do not expect a ton of fancy ambiance, it's VERY casual.

Never a bad meal at this Thai restaurant. The curries are packed with flavor. Had the pumpkin currie and tofu with medium spice and the heat with the sweetness of the pumpkin was a great balance. The roti appetizer was buttery goodness. Plenty of seating on a Friday, they seem to be hoppin with the local takeout and deliveries.

It was my first time going to a restaurant that allowed you to bring outside alcohol into their establishment to drink. Which made the overall time at the place great. ---------------------------------------------------------- Service: The people there were wonderful. Treated us well and gave us explaination on everything on their menu. ---------------------------------------------------------- Other Info: They have an option to spice your food (out of 5 levels). For my nigerians who like spicy food, I recommend just getting the 5th level for the spice. I had gotten a 3 and the spice still tasted mild for myself.

This was definitely not our favorite. It's off the beaten path in collingswood tucked away off of Haddon Ave. the dining room was completely empty on a Saturday night this should have been our first clue. We ordered spring rolls and summer rolls ... the spring rolls were greasy and the best part of the meal. The pad Thai was flavored well the noodles were mushy and overcooked. It had a good flavor but had no heat. When I order Thai I expect hot and spicy almost always. This wasn't spicy in the least bit actually more on the sweet side. The peanut noodles were peanut over load . The flavors were off putting and not what we had in mind. The summer roll was different and not in a good way it's basically a salad in a spring roll wrap. The sauce it comes with was also meh. The price point was expensive for what it was. I would pass by this place definitely not a favorite. They need to have better consistency and more heat as Thai food is expected to be.

Beautiful and relaxing atmosphere, great food, and wonderful service. I tried the fried rice and it was excellent: balanced sweet and savory with aromatic sweet basil! I can't wait to go back and try more!

We ordered through Grubhub, so take that into account for my review. I ordered the Roasted Rohan Tamarind Duck and wasn't happy with it. The vegetables were not fresh; they were rubbery and inedible. The skin on the duck was chewy, and the meat was so full of fat that I had to spit out large chunks while eating (yes, it was a little gross). I liked the spring rolls. They were crispier than most places. The plumb sauce was ok, though not as good as most Thai places. My wife had the pad Thai and said it was ok. Overall, it was disappointing. We usually order from/eat at Sanook Thai, but the restaurant is closed. That's a shame as we enjoyed it very much. We will not order from or visit Circles again.

It was snowing outside (snowstorm really) ... decided to have something spicy and this place is open and delivers! Price was decent- definitely spicy and hit the spot! We got medium spicy and it has a kick Got their drunken noodle and pork stir fry. Also Thai coffee and Thai tea. Not the biggest fan of the Thai coffee tho Will definitely come back again!

The food here is absolutely delicious!! The staff is very welcoming and polite. I tried the general Thai chicken that comes with peppers, onions, and pineapples. I'm looking forward to trying other items on the menu. Loved this place & would 100% recommend it.

Delicious, phenomenal, perfect Thai!!! Love this place. Great prices, great service and my favorite go to spot. Please try their crab Rangoon with curry, green furry, pad Thai, satay, I guess I can keep going but I have never had a bad meal here. Just don't ask for hot(spicy) if you can't handle it. Haha I love spice but even medium is hot for me at circle. Hope who ever reads this try's circle out and enjoys.

My boyfriend and I order from Circles Thai all the time, but I just recently got a Yelp account, so this is my first review. We love that Circles Thai is consistent. The chicken and roti appetizer is my favorite, but today I discovered how much I like the crab rangoon too! Unlike most, which are just cream cheese, this one had a seasoned and flavorful filling. Tip generously if you're ordering delivery from here -- this small, local business uses its own drivers for orders. P.S. Another review gave this place one star because "there were no vegetables in the vegetable pad thai," but if you look at the picture that person posted, you can clearly see bean sprouts and slivers of carrot, which is what vegetable pad thai traditionally includes. I know it's not nice to make fun of others, but I have to laugh at how absurd and misplaced the anger in that review was.

First off, I was blown away when Circles came to town. I was sad to lose my beloved glizzy joint, but Circles a good replacement. The food was traditional, aromatic, tasty and soul warming. Then, something happened. Not sure what, but I'm not a fan. Tonight I ordered the Southern Kua Kling Curry- a traditional spicy curry with beef and veggies. The beef was seasoned perfectly. The vegetables, however, were all haphazardly cut in various sizes and very sparse. The sauce, while typically highly aromatic and blazingly hot was neither. Overpowered with garlic and not the slightest amount of heat. The description of the dish "dares" you to try it as it's typically "Thai hot" not watered down for south jersey folks. Apparently they've changed their mind. This was about as spicy as chik fila buffalo sauce and no where near as tasty. I'm disappointed, but I'm also forgiving. I'm gonna give them another go and fingers crossed the original taste and style returns.

The Southern Islam Massaman was one of the most delicious meals I've ever had the pleasure to eat.

Another fantastic meal from Circles! And right now, that really means so much. Thank you to all the wonderful staff who work and take the time to make such wonderful experiences for us all. I didn't think it could get any better than the Thai peanutty noodles...until I tried the Pad Ped with seitan, and it completely blew me away! The individual flavors of each ingredient can be tasted perfectly in every single bite, and each mouthful was an explosion and discovery of beautiful flavor and texture. They gave us spring rolls instead of the seitan rolls we ordered, but who can complain when everything is gorgeous?

We order from Circled like once a week and it never gets old because their menu is so robust. The general Thai chicken is a household favorite along with the wonton soup. I love the cashew stir fry as well with beef. I will warn that we always go mild with our offers, we accidentally got medium once and we were not strong enough for the spice. It's cool that they offer the options though!

Circles has taken the place of the original Kitchen Concierge on Powell Lane. before they moved to the Haddon and Collins location. We tried Circles on a Sunday night and although they were doing a decent takeout and delivery business, our party of five and one other couple were the only dine in customers. The space is comfortable and intimate. It is a nice setting and feels casual but classy. There were five of us in our party so we ordered a lot of food as follows; * Papaya Salad- Green papaya, carrots, peanuts, grape tomatoes, and dried shrimp mortar together in a chili lime vinaigrette *Beef Massaman & Roti-braised beef with house massaman curry, potatoes, peanuts with pan fried roti. *Crispy Tofu -With a sweet-chili sauce *Thai Rolls-Minced pork, black mushrooms, carrots, cabbage, and shallots wrapped in rice paper with a sweet-plum sauce *Pad Thai -With bean sprouts, peanuts, carrots, chives, and garnished with mango. Served with a sweet and spicy tamarind sauce *Crab Fried Rice (Special) *Southern Islam Massaman Curry- With braised whole Poussam hen with charred pearl onions, fingerling potatoes, peanuts, and baby carrots in a rich aromatic southern curry * Crispy Red Snapper- Fillet red snapper with a sweet and spicy curry or tamarind sauce with a side of vegetables All of the dishes were very solid and had refined flavors. The standout for me was the Southern Islam Massaman Curry. I love the peanut and coconut curry and this had a nice little kick. The chicken was tender and delicious. We finished it off with a fried banana fritter with chocolate that we shared with 5 people. Our bill was about $110.00 before tax and tip, which was pretty reasonable for the quality of the food. We had left overs too! Circles in my opinion are one of the better Thai restaurants in South Jersey. We will definitely be back to try out the menu. 4 solid Yelp stars.

Ordered vegetable pad Thai & there are no vegetables in this dish. This is the second time this has happened.

I had a medium spiced curry with chicken, potatoes, onions and carrots. The curry was pretty good and flavorful. I thought it could have used more chicken (extra $2) or potatoes. Inside is dressy casual with enough room for one large party. They are located in a nice quiet area on a side street of Haddon ave (previously Table 8). They also delivery and are open later than places on Sunday.

Great Thai place right in the heart of Collingswood! Their Philly locations are fantastic, so I was excited to have one in Jersey. Update as of 3/7/2020: Still as great as when they opened! I recommend the Pad Kee Mow and Thai Peanutty Noodles for entrees. If you like more traditional appetizers, try the fried tofu, spring rolls, or summer rolls. If you want another Philly area take on the beloved cheesesteak, get the cheesesteak rolls, they are awesome!

My husband says there's no reason to try any other thai place -- this place is our go-to place. We did the order via Yelp and GrubHub and are very pleased. Even tho the app said it would take 45 to 60 minutes, the order came in under 30 minutes. We ordered pad thai (one with shrimp and one with tofu) plus the roti and chicken massam appetizer. These are solid dishes. We like to save half our entrees for lunch the next day. Pretty good portions for light to medium eaters... especially with an app. This is in our regular rotation of the 4 to 5 delivery places we need to get thru our busy stretches at work and cooking dinner burnouts.

Delicious Thai food in a no frills atmosphere. The inside of the restaurant is clean but not as upscale as the northern liberties location. The pad kaprow and general thai chicken are just as delicious as the other location, and the spice level is accurate. If you ask for Thai hot here, you are getting Thai hot.

So good! Just ordered takeout from here for the first time and it will definitely become our go-to Thai spot. Great quality and great prices!

Ordered takeout, got the pad see ew and mango sticky rice. Overall food was good, pad see ew was a little heavy on the sauce and I wish the veggie to noodle ratio was better, serving was also small. Don't know if this was because it was takeout but was disappointed. Mango sticky rice was good, portion size was good and fruit was fresh and ripe. Don't know if this location has any affiliation with the one in philly but I much prefer this location to philly.

This little spot is slightly hidden off the main road in Collingswood but it is totally worth seeking out. I've tried several Thai restaurants in the area but the food here is consistent and delicious. The owner and staff are very friendly and I've not yet encountered a long wait. Among our favorite dishes are the crab and pork dumplings, the chicken massaman with roti, Pad Kee Mow noodles and the General Thai Chicken. The tamarind duck is one of the best duck dishes I've had.

The pad Thai duck was burnt and the other dish wasn't prepared correctly. The waitress was nice and wasn't her fault at all. The manager wasn't professional and didn't want to converse with us about my dish. The place was empty on Valentine's Day so that tells you the business isn't that great. I wouldn't come here. The northern liberties location is a lot better for sure and will correct the dish. Don't come here you will be disappointed.

Circles is a great addition to the downtown Collingswood food scene and will certainly give the other Asian fusion spots in the neighborhood a run for their money. In spite of their side street location, I believe this will soon become a town favorite. First off, the room is fairly small so plan accordingly. I could see this place filling up on weekends in the coming months. Secondly, if you've been to their other locations and know the food, you won't be disappointed. We went with the Thai rolls for an appetizer and the choo chee salmon and Thai peanutty noodles for our main entrees. Everything came out great and rather quickly. As for the service, it seems like they are still working on it, but since it's their first week I'll give them a pass. I believe they were a bit overwhelmed with take out orders tonight. Still some room for improvement, but definitely going out of your way for. Price is right. BYO. Can't go wrong.

They promise heat they bring it. Love the coconut soup with chicken. Love the staff.

Fair prices, decent portions, tasty food. And their spice ratings are legit- Medium is fairly spicy, and I appreciate the fact they're not pulling punches here. Would definitely order again!

So nice to have a great Thai place in the neighborhood. This restaurant is so cutely decorated. Each table is adorned with a blooming orchid and there are floating candles along the windowsill. I had the lemongrass soup to start and an order of spring rolls. Everything was very fresh and delicious. I had the Thai tea and pad kee mow with chicken. The noodles were cooked perfectly and were served with more fresh vegetables, sweet Thai basil, and a lot of spice! I ordered my dish spicy and I was not disappointed- burn baby burn! The best thing is the dish has the flavor to back up the spice it's not spicy just for the sake of being hot. Our server was attentive and friendly. We stayed after the check just talking and never felt rushed. I will definitely be coming back here.

Don't come here. The duck was burnt and they didn't even say sorry. They don't care about their business at all.

Decided to check out this new-to-Collingswood spot for date night. (Bonus points for being walkable from my house. We started off with an order of the Vegetarian Cheese Steak rolls. How could I not!? They were weirdly enjoyable and the richness of the melted American cheese was strange and delicious. I understanding having a sauce for a spring roll, but the spicy ketchup didn't do much for me. I tried it on one bite, but found myself eating the others plain. There was more than enough flavor and the ketchup just took away from that. After much deliberation I decided on the cashew stir fry. When it was delivered I felt like I'd made a mistake. Don't get me wrong, it was delicious, but it didn't scream "Thai food" to me. I should have gone with a curry or peanut sauce. Also for being called "Cashew Stir Fry" the cashews were painfully lacking. I know it was only $11, but I still felt a little bit cheated. (if you can find a single cashew on the plate in my photo, I'll buy you an order of the vegetarian cheese steak rolls!) The atmosphere was relaxed and cozy. The place is very small so I was glad we visited on a weeknight (maybe 40 seats total?). I'd imagine that as this place gets more popular you could be waiting a long time on busy weekend nights. All said I think it will be a really good takeout spot for us. It's a welcome addition to Collingswood.

Staff was friendly but to be honest the food was nothing short of AMAZING!! I had the General Thai Chicken with white rice. It was just enough sweet and they made it mild for me, meaning they ask you how spicy you'd like your food. So good! Def 5 stars

I would consider this an alright place. Considering it is one of the only nice Thai places I can find this is definitely not bad. The service is really good, loved our waiter. The crab Rangoon was good, the calamari also had fried vegetables, it was alright. The papaya salad was meh, and the peanuts threw me off but that's just my preference. The massaman curry was good, a little but too sweet however the add on of proteins ($2 for chicken and $5 for shrimp) is way too high. The pineapple rice was good however the char of the rice made it smell off putting. My salmon was a tad dry but I loved it either way. I do come here sparingly but there is definitely room for improvement.

I hosted a small party at my home recently and purchased dinner for 10 people from Circles. I stopped by in person to order with the manager (owner?) and she was incredibly kind and helpful. She helped me figure out how much food to order and didn't try to oversell me. In fact, she took 15% off the bill which was so generous. My family and guests were thrilled with the food! We did a large tray of Panang curry, Pad See Ew and Pad Thai. We also did their vegetarian cheesesteak rolls and everything was fantastic. We ended up with just a little extra left over after everyone helped themselves to multiple portions. I will definitely order for get-togethers again because the service and food was outstanding!

Good food and fair price.. this establishment probably has one of the most authentic Thai flavors I've had. They're not afraid to use fish sauce in their food compared to other establishments

Ordered from here tonight and the takeout was quick with no errors in our large order. I had the kow soi and it was very good, but my favorite thing was the crab rangoons with the curried cream cheese. Sooo good.

A friend and I went here for lunch on Friday. We were pleasantly surprised. We had the lunch menu and it was cheap. Besides being cheap the food was delicious. The lunch menu includes an appetizer and soup. The soup was spicy and yummy. It was seasoned so well. The spring roll was also good. My friend ordered beef with vegetables and rice. She said it was seasoned well and a nice portion. I ordered the Peanutty noodles. It was noodles with a peanut sauce. It was different but I liked it the portion size was good also. We had a great experience and will definitely return. Kudos!!!

We started with crab and shrimp fresh rolls and pan fried crab and pork dumplings. They were good not great. I liked the sauces that came with each app. Then we had the beef salad it was spicy and tasty my one complaint is that the beef was tough and too thick. We also had the basil rice and ordered shrimp with it. This dish was medium spiced and was good. The staff were not that attentive and one was actually unloading glasses in the middle of the restaurant on a table. Seemed unprofessional. It didn't add to the ambiance. I would like to come back and try some other dishes.

I hope that today was just a bad day for Circles Thai. Ordered through Uber Eats, the food arrived cold and watered down. Crab Rangoon was fine but cold. Pad King was just alright, barely any spices. Peanutty noodles had about half a teaspoon of peanut flavor. Khao Soi was actually inedible besides the piece of chicken that it comes with. The fried noodles on the Khao Soi were placed on top of the watered down sauce, making the entire thing mushy. The edamame ravioli had both amazing unpleasant texture and taste. It seemed like everything was watered down and prepared carelessly. The total before fees was over 50 dollars which is 50 dollars more than it was worth. I wanted to support a local business and I am very disappointed.

Went here for dinner and ordered pad thai and crab fried rice. They were quick to bring us menus and open the wine, but a little slow to take our order. Food was very tasty and we'll definitely come back to try other entrees. Seating area is a little tight.

Very good food, will definitely go there again, please try the stir fry, it was outstanding.

Food was so good here ! We wanted to try something new and it did not disappoint. We had the crispy tofu which was amazing, the summer roll which was so fresh and the sauce very tasty, and lemongrass soup which was awesome. I had the tofu and vegetable with cashews which was so flavorful and delicious. My fiancé had the braised pork ramen and he loved it ! Will absolutely come back here !

Friendly staff and delicious, authentic Thai food keeps me coming back to Circles Thai on a regular basis. The pad ped is my personal favorite, but everything me and my family have tried has been delicious. I am heading there tonight, in fact, to hang out on the patio with my puppy and a great Thai meal (for me, not my puppy).

I came here for a family dinner on a Friday night. There was tons of traffic for my boyfriend that was coming from PA, but the restaurant was accommodating in altering our reservation. There was a good flow, throughout the night and a small patio that was full to enjoy the summertime weather. We received menus right as we were seated, but was a little slow to get our meal started. We waited a bit to get our wine uncorked, and the waiter never read us the specials. My uncle had to go outside to take a picture of the sidewalk chalkboard to read it back to us. When our waiter arrived, we impulsively ordered appetizers: fried calamari and the massaman roti. The appetizers arrived fairly quickly. The calamari was served with fish sauce instead of the common thai sweet chili sauce as many other restaurants that I've been to. The fish sauce was light with a spicy kick at the end, which we enjoyed. The massaman curry was a little sweet for me and the meat was cut very finely; it was hard to scoop up onto the roti. The flavors of the curry were good though. i wish there were more roti to scoop up more of the delicious liquid, though we didn't want to be too full for our meals so didn't ask for more. Our entrees were generally great, and everyone was really enjoying the flavors. Except for my mother, who ordered the Southern Kua Kling Curry with 3-pepper-level heat and a CAUTION message because of how spicy it is. The woman likes a good challenge and loves spicy food. When it came out, it was actually the least spicy of ALL the dishes - even those at the 2-pepper-level heat. My uncle got the Pad Sator to be adventurous and try stink beans WITH a 3-pepper-level, which was the same kua kling curry as my mom. The beans were not stinky (just bitter) and the curry sauce was not spicy, just salty. I was among those who got 2-pepper-level heat for my dish: red curry with chicken. It was a large portion that was very flavorful. The heat was actually HOT but very bearable. There was a decent amount of chicken and an abundance of delicious bamboo shoots. My brother got the duck curry that had the same red sauce as me. The tamarind duck was a large portion of protein that was flavored delicately without a heavy sauce. My boyfriend and dad both got it, and they both loved it. Not tempted with a dessert menu, we got the bill and realized the meal for 7 was pretty reasonable. I noticed the window pass was filling a lot of takeout orders while we were eating... with good-sized portions with great flavors at reasonable prices, this may have to be my new Thai takeout spot.

- If you can't find a parking spot on Powell Lane, continue down the street & make a left onto N Atlantic Ave, then make a quick right into the Public Parking garage (not the 'Permit Parking' garage) located within the Lumberyard apartment building. It is easy/convenient/reasonable pricing (kiosk) - It is BYOB - You can place orders on-line and they do deliver (not sure as to what radius/townships they deliver to, I will have to ask) All the dishes were very flavor and well seasoned. The portions were good. The staff was friendly/proficient. Our water glasses were refilled in a timely manner. The bathroom was clean. The pricing is reasonable. : Papaya salad: We ordered this for the table to share throughout the meal, kind of like a palate cleanser, it was very good. : Pad Kee Mao (drunken noodles). This time I ordered the seafood version, it was excellent. I especially appreciate how the vegetables had a nice snap to it (not mushy). Next time I will order it 'Thai Spicy' level. : Roasted Rohan Duck Curry: fantastic and very flavorful. : Sticky Rice Custard: I did not like this, will not order again. : Thai Donut: (Pa Thong Ko?) This is NOT a singular donut. It is large portion of thumb sized sticks of dough that are lightly-fried (kind of reminds me of funnel cake). This dessert is perfect for sharing. Would order this again! So happy that Circles opened a location in C-wood! Can't wait to return.

First time ordering and absolutely will order again! I got the Thai rolls and the garlic basil fried rice. Both absolutely delicious. The rice was super flavorful and fresh. The Thai rolls were fried to perfection but not too greasy. Yum!

Wow! I went here for lunch and I must say it not only didn't disappoint but delivered a small tiny feast for a more than affordable price! I had their bento box special which provided a small bowl or soup a spring roll and an entree for 750. There was no doubt a high quality at an amazingly low price for their food. The pork bowl had a perfect level of spice and the broth was flavor full and hearty. Overall I would reconnect for anyone for lunch or dinner. The spot has a small intimate feel but definitely makes you comfortable.

First visit to Circles in Collingswood with friends was good. To be honest I expected a little more. My review is actually 3.5 stars losing a half point for slow service. Started off by waiting 20 minutes to get a server... not a good beginning when hungry ;) Had fried tofu, steamed dumplings and crab rangoon as apps. The rangoon was stellar! For the meal had pad thai duck. They got the spice right but the duck was overcooked and dry. My wife had the pad thai crab which honestly tasted a bit fishy (more than you would expect as if canned crab claw was used. Also the desert menu was very lacking in choices as well as imagination. So we passed. I wish I could write more but there was nothing terrible or exceptional about this place so will not likely return. For Thai and Thai fusion there are a lot of great choices so will look elsewhere.