Hestan Vineyards

My family and I attended our first tasting this weekend. It was wonderful! We were assisted by Paul who was brilliant at describing the different wines and suggesting the ones that would meet our preferences. He was very welcoming and made us feel welcome and appreciated. My wife and daughter are new to wine culture and he was really patient and took his time explaining the wines and the tasting process. We will definitely return! It wonderful to know there are still places, like Hestan, you can visit and afterward know that you’re all the better for the experience.

We randomly stumbled upon Hestan Vineyards on our bike ride to Yountville and was greeted by Paul who was able to accommodate us immediately for a tasting. He was personable and knowledgeable. I loved the back story of how Hestan came to be, and their start in cookware prior to getting into winery. Would recommend

Incredible experience at the tasting room after attending the Napa marathon. Madeline was simply the best host we could have hoped for. She helped us narrow down the wines we liked starting from our initial selection, was generous with letting us try swatches, and kept us hydrated and offered us chocolate. We're excited to visit the estate next! She went above and beyond to help us narrow down our palate. The wines were great but the service really stood out. I hope Madeline will be your host when you visit.

The tasting room was cozy and inviting. We walked in with no reservation. We were not able to do the tasting, but we were able to grab a $15 glass of any wine except for the reserve. We ordered the chardonnay and the savignon blank. Both were fantastic. Ask for Paul, he was a really great host.

A beautiful tasting room in Yountville invites you in with gorgeous modern decor and a variety of kitchenware retail, but the amazing staff and delicious wines is what it’s all about. Our host Ted not only made us feel welcome, not only poured wines for us, not only shared detailed information about vintages and appellations, but also was a great conversationalist and engaged us with discussions of wine tradition, literature, opera, travel... I live in Napa, I have been to many tasting rooms, I love wine - there’s a lot of good wine in Napa Valley, and I can tell you that hosts like Ted is what makes your wine tasting a memorable experience. Go there and experience it for yourself.

We had a lovely mid-December wine tasting experience at Hestan! We were guided in the tasting by Paul, who was so kind, personable, knowledgeable and hospitable! We really enjoyed hearing about the various wines and about Hestan in general. The tasting room is just beautiful and a lovely space to relax and enjoy the tasting. I am also a Hestan cookware fan, so it was like being a kid in a candy shop with all their cookware so beautifully displayed around the room. Paul was also well-versed in the cookware and was able to provide great information about their incredible products. We purchased wines and cookware during our visit - such a perfect combination! Highly recommend the experience and we looking forward to going back!

Nice friendly staff. Cool tasting room and the winery owner also manufacturers high end cookware. Wasn't too impressed with the wines though...

HUGE POOR. Awesome wine. Not outrageously overpriced. Worth a stop.

What an experience! We were in excellent hands with Laurence who took us through an amazingly detailed journey of the history, tastes, and even a topography lesson of their wines! The tasting room is super quaint and really makes you forget you're in the middle of the Yountville bustle. This was truly a one of a kind tasting and I love even more that its Asian-owned. I can't wait to come back and everyone should definitely ask for Laurence!!

I was so excited to visit this tasting room and try their wine. I own Hestan pots and pans and love them tremendously. But this review is for their wine tasting experience . We walked in the tasting room is clean and beautiful. They have a couple of tables for tasting and its almost like a showroom with wine tasting tables. We had the option to select 5 different wine to taste and I have to say I didn't like any of them. They tasted vinegary. Also, they don't have any small bites no cheese or cracker or anything to munch on -- none. The table was set with just wine glasses not even a table napkin. I asked for a napkin and our guy handed us pieces from paper towel he ripped off. So, I will stick to their cooking supplies, pots and pans, and skip the wine experience here. I was not impressed considering they are at the heart of St. Helena and many competition.

This is always one of my favorite and first stops in Yountville. Love looking at the beautiful pieces and the wine pairing is so excellent. I always come home with a bottle of the Grenache. Top notch service as well :)

This is truly the most incredible Tasting Room in all of Napa. My husband and I have had the privilege of enjoying the Hestan Yountville experience on 4 separate occasions and each and every one of them was Extraordinary! And of course on our first visit we bought the Hestan Cookware which we love! Each visit we have had exceptional service from people who are knowledgeable, friendly and create a fun and lively atmosphere for tasting the phenomenal Hestan wines! Stepping through the doors you immediately understand why Hestan is a step above, from the beautiful tables made from wine barrels, cookware and cheese boards line the gorgeous walls and even though you are just steps from the street you feel as if you're in a vineyard miles away! You do not want to miss this experience while in Napa!

We stumble in this cute wine store and learn a lot about the owner of the vineyard. Cheers!

Service was phenomenal, our family had Maddie lead us through our wine tasting journey at Hestan. Upon entry there was a unique asian influenced aesthetic that automatically separated Hestan from the rest. Our family went to a literal castle for a fancy dancy wine tasting prior to this experience and my whole group preferred this small business esk establishment, who paid a crediting amount of attention to detail, while personalizing the experience to what my family enjoyed. We all tribute our enjoyment to the service, and Maddie specifically. She created a magnificent and unforgettable experience.

We had a fabulous tasting at Hestan -- both the wine (especially, the big Napa cabs) and our host (Ted) were fantastic. Highly recommend a visit to the Yountville tasting room.

Ted, an employee, wearing a pink button up - displayed extreme discrimination during my visit on Thursday evening, March 14th, 2024, at 3:30 PM. His behavior warrants immediate action from management to avoid further damage to the brand. Upon our arrival, he made derogatory comments about my wife and me based on our appearance. Despite having reservations at the French Laundry, he dismissed us, assuming we were joking due to our casual attire. When I mentioned the lack of a dress code, he was caught off guard and responded unprofessionally. His demeanor was awkward, impolite, and unwelcoming, prompting us to leave immediately.

Our host was very friendly and knowledgeable. The tasting room is small and very intimidate - really great if you want to get away from all the crowds. Love the Hestan cookware and technology behind how they make it indestructible!

This tasting room is right in the middle of Yountville. If you're grabbing a bite in one of the many great restos in the area and want to get some great wine tasting in, Hestan has you covered. Hestan Ambiance: One big open tasting area provides a spacious and comfortable feel. The high quality cookware and restaurant kitchen ware from the Cheng family is in full display when you enter. White walls, tall ceilings and plenty of natural light makes for a very comfortable tasting experience. There's an overall clean and contemporary look. Hestan tasting experience: Rick was our guide and got us up to speed on the Cheng family history and the Hestan Vineyards. He was very friendly, knowledgeable and the tasting was educational as well as entertaining. The same high quality expectations in the the cookware and kitchenware was evident in their wines as well. Everything we sampled was a treat, but it was the 2014 Stephanie Napa Valley Malbec that really caught my fancy. That was my souvenir back to Vegas. =) A great wine tasting experience awaits you in the heart of Yountville at Hestan. Cheers! =)

Funny that after my review last time back in 2015 about their Meyer cabs, their 2014 Meyer Cab actually got ranked #7 out of the Wine Spectator 2017 wines! Woohoo! Amazing job, Hestan. :) This place is still my home away from home, more specifically my Napa home. Grant has now taken over for Joy and has been running the place really well. I always end my Napa visits here and it's always a hit, every time. The place is modern and chic. Definitely give this place a try when you're up in Napa.

A gorgeous, modern, and sleek tasting room in the heart of Yountville. Hestan definitely caught my eye on Yelp with their décor. Appointments aren't necessary but it helps secure a spot if you call ahead. Hestan was surprisingly busy on Christmas Eve, especially with only one staff member working. He did an absolutely great job hosting all of the guests and gave the perfect amount of attention to each group. There were two tastings offered, one for $40 and one for $55. We chose the Reserve Tasting for $55 which included 4 tastings: - 2011 Hestan Chardonnay - 2018 Vincent Christopher Pinot Noir - 2008 Stephanie Proprietary Red - 2013 Hestan Cabernet Sauvignon My personal favorite was the Chardonnay, it was light, smooth, and perfectly crisp. Our sommelier was friendly, knowledgeable and gave us some history on the owners and the labels of the Hestan vineyard. There is definitely a favorite in the family... Stephanie *cough cough*. It is so blatant it's hilarious. We were also lucky enough to get a bonus pour of an amazing 2008 cabernet sauvignon that I absolutely loved. Overall, I had a great experience at Hestan and will be back.

I was referred to Hestan by the kind folks in the Mending Wall tasting room since Napa superstar Thomas Rivers Brown makes a couple of the wines there too. I was not disappointed. Hestan has a small tasting room in downtown Yountville. It's sleek and modern and is filled with beautiful cookware for sale. Appointments aren't necessary, but you may want to call ahead just in case. We spoke with a friendly gentleman and he said to come on by, so we did. We were seated on a big, fluffy couch for our tasting. Our host was gracious and professional without being pushy or too "in your face." He came over, told us about the wine, poured our tastings, and retreated to the bar. I like this approach because it gives us time to savor and evaluate the wines on offer, and we can honestly discuss them without someone breathing down our necks. After we got to wine #2, we had decided to join the wine club without any mention or pressure from our host (that was an easy sell for him that day)! The wines here are across the board delicious, from the lightest of the whites to the boldest of the big reds. What really surprised us is the quality to value ratio. The wines are fantastic, yet the prices are down to Earth and not astronomical. Now these wines aren't quite reaching the A+ heights of some of Napa's superstar cabs, but they are leaps and bounds better than their $50 - $100 price range would suggest. Four months later, we were back in the Napa Valley with two guests and wanted to treat them to a complimentary tasting at Hestan (wine club members get 4 free tastings when they visit). My husband called to make an appointment for the four of us in June, and the woman confirmed on the phone. All was well -- or so we thought. When we showed up about 5 minutes early for our tasting appointment, the guy behind the bar (he's the same one who hosted us on our first visit months earlier), said that there's no way we could have an appointment because the winery was closing early for a special event. My husband said no, we had a confirmed appointment but the guy just kept trying to pass the blame to anyone but the winery. First, it was that my husband must be mistaken and he had the wrong date and time (he did NOT as it was confirmed twice). After a unpleasant back and forth, the guy finally said that the lady who took our reservation was new and didn't know that they were closing. I wasn't very happy because we had two guests with us and it was totally embarrassing to be turned away when we had talked up Hestan, their wines and their tasting experience. I'm not the type of person who likes to yell or cause a scene, so I voiced my displeasure in the nicest way possible and we started to walk out. As we approached our car, a really nice employee came running out to see what was wrong. Her name was Joy. I told Joy what happened and I said that I was really upset and disappointed and that we would be dropping out of the wine club because that's not the type of treatment we'd expect from Hestan. Before I could even get those words fully out, Joy insisted that we come back inside for a tasting that she would personally host. She said that wine club members are always to be treated like VIPs. I felt kind of bad about all of this because I'm a friendly person who hates confrontation, and the dude behind the bar was just staring at us when we came back in. But Joy was an absolute delight. She didn't rush us and she was very apologetic and friendly. I know that's her job to be like that, but it felt genuine and she was upset at what had happened. We enjoyed a nice tasting and purchased half a case to bring home with us. At the end of our tasting, Joy surprised us in the most excellent display of customer service I have ever seen: she brought out beautifully gift wrapped bottles of wine: one for my husband and me and one each for each of our guests! Not only that, Joy had listened and gifted everyone their favorite bottle from the tasting! I was blown away at that act of kindness and personalized attention! Needless to say, Joy single-handedly saved Hestan's relationship with us and we are still happy wine club members. In fact, we are headed back to Napa next month for Hestan's big harvest wine club party. I wanted to share my two experiences here because I was so impressed. If you want excellent customer service and delicious wines, stop by Hestan.

Always a pleasant tasting at Hestan's tasting room. Great hospitality team in a very contemporary setting. Good wine, must try to make a trip to the breath taking estate of Stanley and Helen! I recommend folks to drop by Hestan before their dinner in Yountville. It is a hidden gem.

Hestan is my all time favorite winery! We stumbled upon them two years ago while in Yountville and don't regret it! Every person in the tasting room is friendly and welcoming. I joined their wine club two years ago and each year when I return to visit they know me by face and name when I walk through the door! Nice to know a small winery treats their employees well enough to keep them for years. Debra is smart and professional and welcoming - she sat with us at the Estate event. Joy, Emily, Ann, and Jennifer are all sweet and knowledgeable about the wines. Great people make a great place. I love all of their wines, my favorite is the 2009 Petit Verdot. I ordered 18 bottles this visit as it is almost sold out. Their 2008 and 2009 Stephanie Cab is my next favorite. Full bodied reds are their specialty. Average price is $40-60 a bottle. They have an amazing Estate event each year for members that is a must go to! Worth the trip and the money. The owners Stanley and Helen are very humble and kind, their estate is gorgeous and inviting. Their daughter Stephanie is very sweet and kind also. If you only go to one winery in Yountville, Hestan is the one to go to.

My boyfriend and I first stumbled upon this place because they are dog friendly! But we keep coming back because of the Meyer Cabernet. The Meyer cab is quite possibly the best thing I have ever tasted. Every time I visit, I end up buying multiple bottles of it. Another wine that we really liked was the Stephanie merlot. We enjoyed it with their Hestan chocolate and it paired very well together. The tasting room features some of the owner's cookware on display, which are also sold at Williams Sonoma. The high quality pots and pans are even used by several Michelin rated resturaunts in the area. We will definitely be back for more wine and cookware soon.

Having been to Yountville in the past for mainly dining, we decided to do some wine tasting in Yountville during our recent trip. After visiting the Yountville Visitor's Center, we received some recommendations and decided to make Hestan our first stop. We've walked by Hestan tasting room in the past, but never checked it out. It is a modern tasting room with two sofa seating set-up, bar tables by the entrance and tables in back. Hestan also sells cookware which is displayed in both sides of the tasting room. We were greeted by Grant and sat in the sofa seating. After checking out the two tasting options of $25 and $40, we opted for the $40 reserve tasting. Grant was a personable and engaging server. He provided a history of how Helen and Stanley (Hestan) Cheng built the ccokware company, Meyer Corp, (think Analon, Circulon, Farberware and Rachel Ray). With each wine of our flight, Grant gave a thorough description of how the winemaker created the wine. We showed interest in the 2010 Stephanie Cab (named after the Cheng's daughter) and after our tasting, Grant gave us vertical pour of the 2013 Cab and the 2010 Cab so that we could compare the two. We ended up getting two bottles of the 2010 Stephanie for both of us. With our four bottle purchase, our tasting fee was waived. It was a very enjoyable experience and will look forward to coming back with friends. A nice gem in Yountville.

We were hesitant to wine taste on Washington Street in Yountville. The thought of fanny packing tourist or herds of youngsters getting their drink on does not fascinate us anymore. We walked into this elegant tasting room and were greeted with a friendly smile and a welcome to take a seat on the couch and an invitation to bring water and wine to us. I had done my research and I knew that one of their winemakers was Thomas Rivers Brown. Brown is a genius in the wine making world and has created several perfect 100 pt wines. Their other winemaker, Jeff Gaffner we were not familiar with but as the day went on we learned more of his success and tasted the fruits of his labor. Hestan has 3 labels; Hestan, Stephanie and Meyer. All labels produce great wines but my choice for the day was Thomas Rivers Brown wine - my wife opted for the Jeff Gaffner wine and hence we tried both. The Stephanie and Meyer labels were very good and came at a lower price point than the Hestan label but Hestan is produced by Thomas Rivers Brown. These wines (Hestan) are well structured with a surprising adventure down flavor lane. We have tasted wines that have tipped the $1,000 price point and we would put up the Hestan 2012 Cabernet Sauvignon against any of those. Tasting fees are $25 and $45 but are waived if you join their club. Wines are also reduced 15% with membership in the wine club. Based on our purchase it was going to be much cheaper to treat ourselves to more wine and join the wine club - which we did. We are looking forward to visiting Hestan and bringing friends. The wine, venue and service are all 5 star. This place is worth every chance of running into a Saturday night bowling fanny packer or out of control college tarts out for a good time. With much love I give Hestan 5 stars.

Excellent experience at the tasting room with Josh as our host. We were sat inside but we moved outside with minimal trouble - both spots are excellent. Wine is well explained and flavorful, and we bought plenty of bottles to take home. Fun spot and dogs are allowed which is always a plus!

Grant!! Thank you so much for an another amazing time at Heston! We brought some friends this time who were totally blown away! We all left with some bottles and actually are going back again, today! Grant was incredibly knowledgeable about wine (I think he's a Somm) and the winery. Super hospitable, handsome and kind...thank you so much, Grant!

Last winery of the day. A urban tasting room for Hestan. Wines were ok. We were pleasantly surprised to get a cheese plate (and the cheeses were great). Good experience, waived our four tasting fees after we purchased four bottles. However, we couldn't really remember the wines (aka nothing stood out...not we were drunk/can't remember). We also couldn't remember the tasting - seemed very average. We always had to say, "Was that the one with the cookware? What wine did we get from there?" A good experience, but nothing out of the ordinary...hence the 3 star, "A-OK" rating. On our trip, we purchased over 50 bottles of wine. Out of the 16 wineries that we visited, we would definately go back to four - in no particular order (Hendry, Viader, Hamel Family, and Phifer Pavit - they all get 5 star reviews). We would go back to four (Round Pond, Twenty Rows, Alpha Omega, and Stag's Leap - all 4 or 5 star reviews). Once is enough for five (Tamber Bey, Del Dotto, Hestan, V. Sattui, Domaine Chandon - mostly 3 star reviews). And would never go back to three (Cline, B. Cellars, and Cakebread). I hope my math is correct. Feel free to check out my other reviews of all the wineries mentioned.

What a unique experience! The reds are out of this world, and I am pretty sure we became best friends with Beth! She was fun, energetic, and made us feel like a part of the Hestan family! We will absolutely be back!

Beautiful tasting room. Great wine. We are Cab lovers. The Stephanie Merlot, Chardonnay and Meyer Cab were our favorites.

We absolutely love their wine. We are members and there is nothing that we do not like. We are only red drinkers, but all of their reds' are amazing. Josh our normal host is no longer there which is a bummer. Fran the new guy was just as nice! We really liked him! We just can't say enough great things about their wines!

Wow! I just met two great guys. Laurence and Paul. They know how to create a great tasting experience. Knowledgeable, engaging and very welcoming. Oh, and the wines are really good. From Grenache to Merlot to Cabs. (I prefer reds). Jeff Gaffner and Thomas Rivers Brown produce their wines. Can't go wrong there. Worth a visit.

The best wine tasting experience in the whole valley! Went to several tastings in the area; and this place surpassed them all, in service and selection. The staff is extremely personable and knowledgeable. I learned more about wine in my time there then any blog. The wine is amazing beyond its price point. Plus they sell fantastic cookware in the shop. Very impressive and enjoyable. You will regret passing this place by.

Hestan is by far one of my favorite wines, and every time I go to Napa, I make it a mandatory stop to Hestan. I always come here for their wine tasting because their wines are always so delish! My favorite is the Hestan Cabernet. It cost about 150, a little steep but I promise, it is one of the better wines in Napa. I love it even more than opus. If you ever come to Napa, make sure to make a pot stop to Hestan!

Stopped in this tasting room while walking around Yountville. And boy is it pricey for some average wines! Tastings ranged from $45-60, I think for just three tastes. The girl pouring the tastes gave us literally no information about the wine except for the varietal and vintage she was pouring. She was also shuffling around the tasting room with shoes that were falling off her feet. It was near the end of the day, like around 3 or 4, and it was very clear she was ready to be done with the day. They wine good, but nothing to write home about.

Worst service ever and the woman working was so RUDE we ended up leaving after waiting more than 20 minutes for the tasting that we paid for! She served others in front of us that arrived after we did. She asked me not to sit down on the couch and there was only our party and one other party in the entire place! I felt so disrespected! We ended up leaving without being served and she wouldn't refund our money!!! Definitely would not recommend if you are looking for a good and relaxing experience. Horrible! I wish Yelp had an option for no stars!

First class, first rate all the way. Excellent experience. We visited yesterday and were fortunate enough to visit the winery in Atlas Peak and the tasting room in Yountville. Kate was our tour guide and I can't say how truly wonderful she was.....personable, down to earth, friendly. The tasting room service staff was excellent as well....thank you Grant! Wines were awesome. The 2008 Stephanie and the Hestan Cab was sooooo good. Loved the kitchens at Atlas Peak. Highlight of our visit to Napa.

The building is incredible. Such beautiful and modern architecture. Their wines were nice. We ended up buying two bottles to take home, the Grenache and Malbec. The service was good. I'm not too sure if the girl who helped us was fairly new, but it seemed as if she just memorized the facts that were on their tasting lists.

Absolutely amazing. Customer service!!! Top notch. Love love love the Stephanie!!! Definitely will be back

Mediocre and overpriced wines. Don't believe the hype! Your pocketbook will regret it. There is nothing special about this label. Overpricing an average wine does not make it worthy of Yountville. Definitely pass on Hestan. Hestan=Conceit

We stopped in here to kill some time between wineries. This ended up being my favorite stop of the day. Great little chill out spot, fun kitchen items to look at, and wonderful Stephanie Malbec wine. The staff was knowledgeable and very friendly. I really enjoyed this little gem. We left with 3 bottles and I can't wait to go back.

My wife and I visited Hestan last Thursday, what a great time! Both Joy and Grant were so informative and knowledgeable on not only their wine but also the wine industry. There was not a wine we tasted that we did not love! This is a must stop when you are in the Napa area!

This women was literally the least friendly most unwelcoming person I've encountered in quite some time. Instead of serving our party which she felt overwhelmed by she decided to serve the party of 4 that came in much after us we decided to leave and go next door to hope and grace which I suggest you do as well. Bottom line don't waste your time.

Incredibly disappointing experience. My husband and I came here on Valentine's Day after dining in Yountville. We both did the $25 standard tasting - in hindsight I wish we'd split it. We go wine tasting a lot since we live in San Francisco and this is the first time that we were told absolutely nothing about each of the wines that were being poured. The worker simply said the name of the wine, poured, and stepped back. I was a very awkward experience and we could not wait to leave. Also, there were only 3 other people in the tasting room and every single table and seating area was "reserved". We probably would have enjoyed our experience a lot more if we at least had been able to relax and leisurely drink our wines. $50 is a lot of money to spend for such a sad time.

I will have to agree with Jan W., we walked in because the exterior looks great. There were only two small groups inside, no acknowledgement from anyone, no hello, no how are you , not even a HEY, ...would've loved to try the wine if somebody would at least say something.....unfortunate, we walked out and had better experiences at Hall and Sequoia Grove.

Convenient and friendly, I really enjoy visiting Hestan. Their wines are the best kept secret in Yountville. Their wines are a deal compared to their quality. Hestan has two winemakers that specialize in different styles. There is something for everyone's palette. I know they are a small team, so don't be shy and head right up to the bar, you won't be sorry.

Great tasting room! Wine is phenomenal and Joy was great! We had a great time with her!!!

Modern tasting room with exquisite cookware on display. The tasting was quite nice although quite expensive. All of the wine we tasted was high quality, but surprisingly the malbec was our favorite.

My friend and I dropped by this winery this past weekend after we got our macaroons from Bouchon bakery. It is on the same street as Bouchon bakery and walking distance. We were helped right away and sat at one of the couch. There is limited seating so come early. Staff was friendly. Jonathan was helping us and he was so nice and had a great personality. I usually don't like reds but all the wine that we tasted were great. My favorite was the 2009 Stephanie Cab - brought home a bottle. Def check out this place for the wines but you will also love the service!

Wow. I was pleased to walk into this little winery in Yountville. The wines were spectacular.was really surprised to try this food of wine. What really made the experience was our host Mauricio. He and a fellow josh just provided a very hospitable setting. Provided great service with awesome knowledge. Would recommend to anyone.

I always have a great time when I come here! The staff is incredibly welcoming and helpful. My favorite is Emily! She's always pleasant and extremely knowledgable! Great customer service!

Terrible terrible experience. Very very unfriendly person at desk without being served a single drop of wine.

I have been a follower and avid fan of the Hestan wines since 2009 when I was lucky enough to be invited to taste at the beautiful private estate of the founders. Their new tasting room in Yountville is awesome and I highly recommend checking them out - perfect for a before dinner stop in as their vibe is awesome.

Great wine and great service! The employees are awesome and absolutely amazingly knowledgable about their wine. Every time I visit I learn something new. And the wines are incredible. Highly recommended.

During our wine tasting trek through the Napa Valley we stopped at Hestan Vineyards. The manager, Melissa, and her assistant truly wanted to make our visit memorable. The wine was some of the best we had tasted that day. Not only was the wine good but Melissa and her assistant were so hospitable. We felt like we were at home drinking wine with friends. Truly an enjoyable stop.

WONDERFUL reds, and a nice sitting area inside with couches to wine taste. Made for a unique and comfortable wine tasting experience. We purchased a bottle to have with our lunch, and had a picnic in the park right outside the doors of Hestan. Two thumbs up!