Mémoire Boston

I honestly don’t even know where to begin. What was supposed to be an exciting night quickly turned into a chaotic, exhausting, and deeply upsetting experience. I arrived for a concert scheduled from 10 PM to 2 AM, and the venue’s website clearly stated that entry would begin at 9 PM. Instead, I was told upon arrival that a private Super Bowl party had rented the same space and that the concert had been pushed to 11 PM. We were left waiting outside until nearly 11:45, only to be kept inside the venue with no explanation, no organization, and no communication. The artist didn’t come out until 1:15 AM—and never even performed. The environment felt unsafe and completely out of control. Men were openly putting their hands on women, people were screaming for security, and nothing was done. Individuals were removed and then shockingly brought right back in. I was told I couldn’t use the bathroom because I wouldn’t be allowed back inside, yet I watched others go freely with no consequences. My friend and I were shoved, pushed, hit, and had drinks thrown on us. People were screaming threats in our faces, and security’s only response was to tell everyone to “calm down,” while doing absolutely nothing to protect anyone. After waiting hours for a concert that NEVER happened, we asked to leave just 20 minutes in—and were refused access to the only clear exit. We were forced to physically push our way through the crowd to escape an environment that felt hostile and dangerous. If it were possible to give this place a negative rating, I would without hesitation. This venue was not just unorganized—it was unsafe, irresponsible, and completely unacceptable.

Honestly, one of my least favorite clubs I have ever been too. This place is TINY! Went for MGK after party, and moving through the crowd to even get to the bar was impossible. Super tiny walkways and it seemed like only one way to get to and from the bar which is at the wayyyyy back. Small bar too with overpriced drinks, but that was what I expected at a club so oh well. Very small GA section, and with how many people they had jammed in there it was impossible to get in and out. Tables and VIP roped off sections take up more than half the space, which is fine, but again, made it impossible to move around. Added an extra star cause MGK was awesome and totally worth it, and contrary to other reviews, I found the door, bar and security staff very pleasant and helpful. Security especially was great when a massive dude decide to literally barrel his way through the crowd and knock people over. In my opinion, much better clubs in Boston!!!

Staff was completely rude, inappropriate, and offensive towards us - paying guests - and nobody at any level or department of this organization cares whatsoever. There is no accountability, no respect from staff; they just ignore you until you give up and go away. Don’t waste your time or money here - go somewhere with some class. This place has NONE. Not a shred of human decency to be found on the premises. They book some good DJs once in a while, but so do lot of other places that have more respect for their patrons. The prices here are outrageous, the service is terrible, and the vibe reeks of toxic negativity. Thirsty Gen-Z brats think they own the place just because they work there or know someone who does; butting in front of us at the bar & instigating a scene, then continuing to terrorize, bait, and bully us adult hotel guests who don’t have a posse of catty, overindulgent, self-entitled mean-girls to assist with vindictive acts of uncalled-for cruelty; we don’t want to engage, we don’t want to be insulted and harassed just because you think you’re cooler than me; we just want to be left alone whilst attempting to enjoy a rare few hours of live music & dancing at this onsite venue of what CLAIMS to be a 5 star hotel but absolutely does NOT qualify. This place is TRASH. Stay away. I wish I had.

Terrible experience because of the discriminatory blonde bartender girl. I was bullied by some self-entitled spoiled gen-z brats as I was waiting for service at the bar, then I was verbally and physically assaulted by them as I tried to watch the show. The blond bartender band-wagoned on for no apparent reason and the staff tried to kick me out as if I had done something wrong. I was only trying to avoid the assaults. It was baseless discrimination for NO reason and totally ruined my experience. I was hurt & offended. The blonde bartender is a mean-girl bully and should be fired. These people are everything that is wrong with the world right now. Bottom line: STAY AWAY. DO NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE. DO NOT SUPPORT THIS BUSINESS. DO NOT CONDONE THIS BEHAVIOR. There are plenty of other clubs with good DJs and a MUCH better vibe. Go to The Grand. DO NOT GO HERE. Stick to the slot machines and card tables. BOYCOTT MEMOIRE. This place is breeding a toxic culture and needs to be stopped.

I went to encore for a show and it was super packed definitely over capacity due to the venue changing last minute I couldn’t even get to and from the bathroom and had the worst claustrophobic feeling and Mugo a security guard guided me and waited until I got out of the bathroom to escort me back to my party and I appreciated that so much he was so kind and really cared about keeping people safe.

First and foremost, the DJ was phenomenal!!! He played an array of mixes of all genres. It was a nice atmosphere, and the place is huge and beautiful. I would definitely go back again, I danced all night! The bartenders were also very courteous! ❤️

Nice club, the opening act was better than the dj ( different font) Nice lights, a dance floor in the middle, the folks didn't really dance much 18$ for a drink was steep And tickets were 30$?

When Daryus costa is the dj this place is phenomenal. What a great mix up of music and the club sets the tone to his great performance

The good... small nightclub venue for a concert with reasonably priced show: The bad... acoustics not good. Bar does not serve wine, how is that possible? The act, 50 cent, doors open 10 PM, but he did not come on until 1 am, place closes around 2. There is no room because of the large couches with bottle service surrounding the floor. The jerks at the couches stood on the couches or sat on the backs of the couches so nobody behind them could see. They had way more people for couches than fit and climbed over the backs of couches. They were not only blocking, but vaping all over the place, didn't think that was allowed indoors: nobody corrected this behavior and it ruined the show for many people behind them who had been standing for 3 hours waiting for 50 to come on. Very disappointing experience.

Fun time at Memoire last night. Good music, DJ was great. The dance floor does get crowded after a while so we went to the back where there was more space. Upstairs was a private event so we couldn't check that out. There is couch seating and tables all around the dance floor and there was a bachelorette party group at one of those. Security keeps a close eye on everything which is good.

as a club it is great, but it is very expensive usually accompanied by a heavy cover fee. I would mostly recommend for special events and artists.

In 2025, I'm quite positive nobody wants to hear pitbull or Flo rida, while paying $20 a mixed watered down ice cube drink. Not fun, not worth the $25 admission for a very very basic dj.

My friends and I bought tickets in advanced on ticketmaster as it was only $20 per person as opposed to the almost $40 coverfees at other clubs in Boston. I was glad we bought them ahead as we were able to skip the moderately long line at 11:30 pm given they close at 2 am. Located in a massive casino, there was not a ton of space for the tables located in the middle of the rooms and the slim bar on the perimeter. Drinks were pricey and not very good which is consistent with most places. Songs changed every 30 seconds ranging from throwbacks, new hits, and a sprinkle of latin music. Overall, my friends had a decent time and may come again.

Best place I've found to dance to club music if you're 30+ and don't want to feel out of place, packed in with sweat college kids. $40 admission price helps keep out the riffraff and, being in a casino/hotel, you tend to get a mixed crowd where, sure, its still mostly 20s but also 30s to 50s looking people. Dance floor gets packed but there is a lot of open area around the outside and the bar never gets too busy that you can't find a space to get a drink. Also nice that you can go grab some drinks at other bars in the casino while you wait for Memoire to get going.

So you have to get your tickets on line at Ticketmaster or you will pay double at the door and have a long line. We entered the club at 11:00 pm And no space on the tiny dance floor to dance. It's a roped off dance floor in the center of VIP seating for $1,000-$3,000! They have servers in the vip that add to the scenery in little skimpy but classy leotard. The crowd was young men were casual while girls tried best to look good. I'm no ten by any means at all but really love love good music. The DJ was one of the worse I have ever heard, his choice of songs were so dated !!! They were songs that were popular in like 2010. Also, the actual DJ Crespo, did not start to play till near midnight. Don't waste your efforts. The bartender and door guy were very very nice to us so no complaints with that. I honestly felt like I was on a cruise ship, the decor is lacks vibe. The massive screen is so pathetic too, a show or something worth looking at would be nice because you cannot watch people dance no room to dance. What is it with the dance clubs today that everyone just stands around. I hear Nelly has played here along with Other high names- those tix are about $100, maybe worth the money. If you think you can renter the club at 1:30, no they shut and closed off the escalators. They have a outdoor smoking area that was handy for smokers and close to the door of the club. TIP- don't stress over what you are wearing. Be prepared to stand no bar stools or even high tops to stand around, the club is located to the right of the casino when you enter main entrance, walk towards the center, when you hit the center, take right, walk to the end and go up the escalators you will see the casual restaurant. It's opposites it.

It's a nightmare to get into this club, which has more to do with the casino it's located in than the club itself. Guests must walk through the casino floor for about 30 seconds to get into Memoire. However, the casino's security have contradictory rules than the club. The club will have events with dress codes, but the casino won't let you through. Our friend group was quite literally told by the casino manager to take off our make up, walk through the casino for said 30 seconds, walk into the club, and put our make up back on. This was for security purposes according to them, because make up prevents them from identifying you. There is no alternative way inside the club than through the casino. We're all doctors and had our healthcare ID's in addition to licenses, but apparently that was not enough identification. The casino manager provided us wipes to take off our make up. *The icing on the cake is that when you finally make it inside the club after wiping your make up off, the security guards inside the club are anti-LGBQT. They stopped my female friend from going into the women's bathroom and discriminated against her. This is due to her dressing masculine and having short hair. She's clearly a masculine lesbian, but they seemed to not understand that she wasn't a male trying to enter a female bathroom. Avoid this place like the bubonic plague. It's a horrible waste of money and time. Their management has not responded to my email in regards to our chaotic night out there.

Do you like being in the way? Do you like being yelled at by roid rage bouncers? Do you like high priced drinks? Do you like being shoved, elbowed and pushed? Well this is the place for you.

Wish I could give it 0 stars. Bartender was rude and refused to acknowledge me or serve my friend's water. When I complained we got kicked out. Left a bad taste in my mouth on my birthday

My husband and I arrived to the club at 10pm. We ordered one drink and were on the dance floor. My friend arrived between 11-1130pm. She tried getting a drink but had a hard time. I told her I would get it for her since we were waiting for Akon to show. I went to the bartender in the middle. When got to the front of the bar a second person arrived to my left and another woman arrived to my right. When the bartender finished the order she was doing she skipped over me and the guy and went straight to the girl to my right. She was making her drinks and speaking to her by first name and asking her about the people she was with, mentioning first names. I told the bartender excuse me but I was first. She ignored me and proceeded to hand over the drinks to the lady. Once done she went over to the guy to the left of me. He told the bartender "She was actually before me" The bartender looked at him and said "Do you want a drink or not?" He looked at me and said "Sorry I tried". My friend over heard and saw what happened and told me she would just get her drink. My friend then comes up to me and said the bartender told her she was not serving her. My friend went to another bartender and was ale to get her first drink. Then when she came back to the dance floor a security guard came up saying I had to leave. This was all during when Akon was already out. My husband and I were walked over near the bathrooms and spoken to. My husband was very upset, I just decided to stay quiet because honestly we wen to encore to see Akon, booked a room and were taken out during the show. After being spoken to for a while the security guard stated we could go back. I'm not sure why I was escorted out and had to miss the sow I prepaid for. I am writing this because if it was due to the bartender she used her power to get me escorted out inappropriately. It left a very bad memory of my night with my husband and makes me very reluctant to ever go back. I have been to this club now 3 times. It is a far drive for me. I was hoping to leave with a good memory and spent a lot of money that weekend staying at Encore. This was a disappointing night and I wish I did not buy tickets to go because it was truly ruined by that incident. I spoke to the front desk, sent emails and called no one has gotten back to me

Not sure I completely get the one or two star reviews. It isn't perfect, but it also isn't a one star club. We had a great time there on a Thursday, spontaneously decision. Wasn't there for bottle service, but we'd consider going back for that at some point. Some people complained about the drink prices... they really aren't that bad for a Boston club and are comparable to prices elsewhere in Encore. Paid $17 a drink, top shelf, and it was a solid pour. If that seems too expensive then, well, I don't know what to tell you. Bar service was fine. It did get crowded, which should be expected, and I could see why people would want more space in the front near the DJ to dance. Didn't really bother us Despite the crowd it didn't take me too long to get a drink. Staff were mostly fine. One security guard was a jacka*s to us after the show ended at 2. Production was terrific. Saw Tiesto. Great music, lighting, effects. Can't complain about that part of it at all. So I wouldn't rule it out because of the bad reviews, particularly if you're looking to eat/drink/gamble elsewhere in the casino before the club, or if there's a DJ playing that you want to see. Covers can be up to $100 for big names but not usually quite that high. As an aside - not specifically a criticism of Memoire - but Encore needs to up their food game a lot. Several places closed as early as 10pm (with last call at 9:30), we went to the italian place before Memoire (which was good) but a giant plate of pasta is a bit heavy of a meal before going to a club.

Waited since 10pm for 50 cents till1 am no show but Dj's for $100 tickets I need a refund ASAP. This is disgusting. They over booked the place can't get a drink for a friend at the bar. If I went to go the club I could get in for free before 11pm. Encore needs to be more responsible if you take people money for an artist it should deliver. No artist, small venue, oversold the tickets and then no artist for over4 hours, come on I'm reporting to the state.

Is it perfect? No Is it as bad as these reviews are making it out to be? Also no For the most part I really like the atmosphere at this place. It does get a bit crowded at times on the main dancefloor but it generally settles down as the night goes on. They bring in a lot of high end acts such as Fisher, 50 cent and Dillon Francis to name a few. They have a great sound system and production Average drink prices for the Boston area ($10 for a beer), if you think that's expensive then don't go clubbing in a big city like Boston.

This is the worst club I have ever been to!! Absolutely horrible experience and clear discrimination! My friends and I went there tonight to celebrate the holidays and got kicked out after only 30 min because they said we were "too intoxicated," but we each had had 4 drinks or less while gambling and had switched to water once we were in the club. We were not disturbing anyone or anything, just dancing and hanging out and observing many more young, white people that were way more intoxicated than us! We were suddenly removed from the club with no legitimate reason given and my friend was accused of things she did not do. We had paid for tickets to the club and we were not given a refund! My friend is half black and it was clear they were singling her out for no real reason. This was outrageous and so upsetting and the owners of this club should be absolutely ashamed of themselves!!

Blonde bartender wouldn't serve one of our friends for no reason; when we asked why, she started refusing service to all of us

Best nightclub in Boston easily even though Boston doesn't have great nightlife but this will do

In terms of what's available for nightclubs in New England this is THE spot. The lighting, speakers, and layout are fantastic. You can get so close to the best DJs, and the cover charge is less than a concert ticket. Also: lasers. The bottle girls are some of the most beautiful humans I have ever encountered and so nice! I came to celebrate a new job and had Drizzy. She was amazing! As for bottle service, you get what you pay for. The prices here are fair for the amenities available and location; free garage parking, free coat check with a table, the casino is always open and there's always a way to get food after. Even ubering out is easy through the casino Valet entrance. The club itself is beautiful and clean, it has two bars and two levels. There's no way to be fats away from a show here. Definitely recommend.

Overall a really crappy way to spend your hard earned money on a day off with watered down drinks, shitty service, and staff with even shittier attitudes!

Place sucks, don't waste your money. None of the openers go on until 1 at the earliest, to play a 1 hour set. Crowded as hell, bunch of privileged trust fund kids showing off their wealth and nothing else. Plenty of other clubs way more worth it. Oh also one of the bottle girls threatened to "step on" the people in the crowd who were forced in like sardines based on how small the venue is. Enjoy!!!

This was the worst club and business I've ever been to. They decided to stop serving alcohol to everyone when the crowd had first enter the venue. There is no reason to ever go to Mémoire for a night out. The venue is small and the staff does not service the people at the club.

This place is tiny, and so was the dance floor. Terrible set up and the music was bad. The bartenders looked miserable and were rude..are they told not to smile/talk?? So confused by their crappy attitudes. Over priced drinks and horrible service, I'd literally rather watch paint dry than ever go here again

Bartender literally ignored us the entire night and demanded a $5+ tip when we finally got served after 45 mins...on top of that security/bouncers were extremely rude and invasive. Do yourself a favor and spend your money literally anywhere else.

Terrible bouncers. Friends and I kicked out for absolutely zero reasoning. Bouncers full of themselves and bartenders don't know right from left, 0/10 would i recommend. The Grand is 100% superior.

I only came for the last 30 mins of this lounge being open. The DJ played a few good songs that my girls and I sang along and danced to. The atmosphere was nice but I did notice a few people staring at us, perhaps we just had the moves. If I ever find myself at this casino again, I wouldn't mind stopping by and giving this place a real shot.

Memoire is a terrible business. I went to buy a drink and literally had only had one drink and they refused to serve me with no good reason other than the fact they were clearly bullying. Do not go here, it is a rip off and the people are very stuck up. I would select less than one star if they had it

This place sucks! Save your money and go to shrine, the grande, venue, anywhere other than this place. Got vip and got a wristband tried to go to the bathroom and tried to tell the bouncer and he rudely kept telling me not to yell at him. First of all the music is loud and I'm trying to let you know that I'm trying to use the restroom. Secondly they told me I need a different color wristband? But then again I got through with the wristband I had on. I'm sorry y'all gotta change your bouncer it seems like he had anger issues get someone who understands please! I can't. I love shrine at Foxwoods YeH bouncers are so nice, understandable and friendly. Save your money and go there. Can't believer they're owned by the same people. The manners of the bouncers here are so unprofessional. You spend over 2000 and still get treated like shit. Not worth it! Don't listen to the good reviews they're probably getting paid for it or they work there.

Shitty club, shittier service. Would never get bottle service here again, if you do be warned they have different prices menus they show you with vastly different prices on them. Very very sketchy. Plus the service is trash/they don't let you pour your own drinks so you have someone just hanging at your table all night. I get it, but that is not my preference. They try so hard to make it an upscale/fun club but it really just isn't and they are assholes.

Way to small of a space too many tables very crowded dance floor the staff let way to many people in it's a fight to get to the bar and then a whole war just to get a drink if you're not throwing elbows or literally shoving people good luck getting to the dance floor but if you do make it there you better enjoy close quarters and bouncing around like a rag doll from everyone being pushed into each other definitely not worth the 70 dollars that was paid to get in

Place is beautiful but too crowded and omg expensive is an understatement But if service was good to justify the prices I could understand but service was poor very hard to get a drink and bartenders are not at all friendly especially if you are black or brown it takes forever to even close your tab and leave. I would never return here and I will be telling everyone I know to avoid it. Thank god for yelp and social media. If you wanna pay for ice and over $17 for bottom shelf drinks then go ahead. If you respect yourself and your money avoid it.

If I could give them zero stars I would. This place is absolutely treacherous. I am embarrassed to even have wanted to step foot in this "club." I paid for my ticket beforehand and was completely sober and tripped over a cup, so a bouncer told me I was so no longer allowed there and when I tried to explain he did not give me an opportunity. I will not be coming here again.

Expensive as fuck. When I say expensive as fuck I mean the price doesn't justify none of what is offered. Extremely overpriced

Giving this place 2/5 stars because on 6.19.2021 my friends and I were attending the Cash Cash concert at Memoire but one of my friends was denied entry because he had an expired ID. I felt so bad for him and what's worse is even though his ticket wasn't scanned, there's still no refund! So my friend wasted almost $60 for an event he can't attend. He doesn't even look underage! What I don't understand is how my friends and I entered the casino with our IDs/Licenses just fine but couldn't enter the club?! Makes no sense! In the end my friend was brought home by 2 of my other friends because they have a kid at home and couldn't stay late since Cash Cash didn't come out until 12:30am. Even though a few of my friends missed out on Cash Cash, the rest of us still had a good time. Only thing I wish is they removed the VIP booths that's facing the DJ stage so there's more room to dance on the dance floor. It was so crowded that we barely have room to dance and there was a lot of pushing & shoving. I even had a hard time getting to the restroom because it was next to the bar and there was so many people blocking the way. Either remove the VIP tables that's on the floor or perhaps limit the capacity so it's not too crowded especially on a night when a famous DJ is performing.

I came during opening week and it was one of the best nights I've ever had. First had dinner at Mystique then came to club after. The venue was amazing and is not like any other club in Boston. The dance floor is huge, there is two floors the second overlooking the first. The bottle girls are gorgeous and the service is great. Once inside it feels as though I'm in Vegas!

absolutely terrible Club. the music and drinks were good but my friends and I were kicked out for absolutely zero reason. i went to use the restroom and was confronted by a Security guard who said i was too intoxicated to stay, and kicked me out. This happened , even though i was perfectly fine with zero stumbling or anything of the sorts. i figure they did it because i was ordering two drinks at a time for both my girlfriend and I, and i assume they thought i was drinking it all to myself. horrible bouncers, security, and the likes. would not recommend at all. Apparently you can't have more than 3 drinks in a night without being booted for some odd, unknown reason.

This isnt a refelection of Encore itself (the staff/service was great everywhere else) but if I could give Memoire 0 stars I would!! My bf & I were on a rare child-free date night, so I convinced him to come check out the club w/ me. I walked up smiling; all excited.. which was apparently unacceptable & suspicious to the "tough guy" bouncer out front of Memoire. Doesn't say anything, just crossed his arms & asked how much we drank.. like we were children! It was humiliating when we're both in our 30's; dressed nicely; not some drunken kids. I answered truthfully that we had 2 complimentary drinks in the casino earlier in the night. He responded, "Should've lied & said none, i cant let you in"... like excuse me!? Obviously they pick/choose/discriminate. I regret not asking for a manager then & there. Especially after I watched him let the 2 girls behind us stumbling all over the place in ni questions asked; barely looked 21 & wearing literal gym clothing. Ridiculous. Well from what I've read here anyways it doesn't sound like we missed out on much!

Unreal place! Great service. Great staff. Highly recommended. Went for a friends bday and everyone had a great time. We are looking forward to next celebration.

Make sure you make this a destination when in Boston and especially when visiting the Encore Boston Harbor. Music is great and the Line up of DJs is very impressive! Ive been there a half dozen times already and have had a awesome time.

Very rude staff. Waste of money. Overall one of the worst clubs I've ever been to. I don't write Yelp reviews but I felt the need to download the app and write this. I honestly feel like I deserve a refund after being treated so poorly by staff. $100? Scam.

My first time at Memoire. Nora was the first worker I met outside the doors. Even without a table she made me feel welcomed!

Had a table at memorie and had the absolute best time ever. our bottle servers ava and alexis were absolutely amazing, never had service like it before! will 100% be back and will be requesting them. thank you memoire for being so amazing!!!!

$16/drink and incredibly rude staff. DJ line-up is all around mediocre. Someone really really good comes thru anywhere from 1x/wk, to more typically 1-2x/month. Vibe was generally stuck up. All around not the experience you'd expect for the $.

Me and my friend decided to stop by Mémoire because R3HAB was playing that night. We asked a bouncer how much the cover charge that night was and he told us $30 which we thought was a great price for a well known dj. She paid $30 and I paid $35 for coat check. When we got in the place was pretty empty. When we enter to the bar we asked when the show was going to start the bartender said that the dj had cancelled and that they had posted o line to let people know. Not only were we disappointed with that news they also didn't have red wine. When we left a few minutes after arriving we asked if we could get out money back since the dj wasn't there they said that there was no refunds and that we should have known that he wasn't going to be there that night because of the ticket price and the posting online. I really feel like they should have told us at the door that the entertainment for the night had cancelled. I will not be coming back and if you go I would ask some questions before you give them your money.

too bad there is no 0 star i could give this place. After spending over $800 at the bar we were treated rude as hell because bartender was not happy with 20% tip she wanted more mind you we waited forever for every round of drink. when you show disappointment and complain they will try and kick you out. this place is the worst nightclub in Boston anyone trying to go to the casino you can get your $ worth and be treated a lot better at Foxwoods. for the price of everything here you can spend a night and still save $ at foxwoods it is worth the drive. nothing is worth spending your hard earned money. we could have had a bottle service at clubs in Downtown Boston for a better service and price than Memoire. my Advice avoid this entire place.

My friends and I have an amazing night every time we're here - great tables, staff, drinks, and music. The vibe is always fun and the nightclub is very well run! Best in Boston honestly ... I recommend VIP/bottle service; you won't regret it. Henry Lee runs a smooth operation - Will be back soon

Have been here numerous times especially on Sunday's and the venue is absolutely beautiful matched with great performers and quality drinks !

Don't get me wrong it's a nice place to party but the vip service is a different story.. the bottle girls are scam artists, and some have the worst attitudes. On two occasions I've caught the bottle girl throwing away liquor that we bought. She was throwing the goose bottle in the trash bin under the table that we just bought 15 minutes prior and still had almost half the bottle left and said she"thought it was empty". Another night I asked one girl for 5 shots and she poured half the bottle into the shaker and I watched her dump it under the trash bin of the table. Refused to give her a 20% tip and she had a tantrum. All I have to say is, bring a sober friend to watch the bottle girl or else you'll get finessed out of liquor. Also learned that almost 90% of the reviews made are from the bottle girls/vip hosts/managers, so tread lightly when depending on their reviews.