Ming's at Midtown

Ming’s offers a unique blend of flavors and a fun, modern ambiance that makes it a standout spot for fast-casual dining. The menu is a creative fusion of Asian, American, and even some unexpected elements — think jalapeños, French fries, and steak all making surprise appearances. The food is fresh, flavorful, and well-presented — especially impressive for a fast food concept. I wasn’t exactly sure how to categorize the cuisine, but that’s part of the charm: it’s bold, original, and doesn’t stick to one box. Service is minimal, as you order at the counter, but the staff is friendly and welcoming, which adds to the laid-back experience. Whether you’re craving something new or just want a casual spot with great taste, Ming’s is worth checking out. I enjoyed my visit and would definitely come back again.

This was my rice pudding. I gave 2 stars bc the buns I also ordered were soooo good but letting this out the door is super confusing to me. I had delivered via uber eats. If I was in person I would have just exchanged for a new one. I’m assuming rice shouldn’t be green but I tried it too. It wasn’t good. 😔I would get the buns again but this was a too wild to say nothing.

I have to start with the service. There was a tall young man that may have been the manager. We saw him running around taking care of everybody. Almost scary cuz I could just think about something I needed, like a knife and I looked up and had eye contact with him and he motioned did I need a knife and I said yes. He hit that several times. My friend had suggested this place to our group. I've got to tell you that parking is a little challenging. But I would probably take a paid ride here. Everything we had was delicious. And fresh. And delicious. And fresh. Okay. I said that twice because it's that important. Beautiful presentations. Art on a plate. I have friends that are not into this type of cooking. I have no problem going here with this other group of friends LOL. I can't tell you what I liked best, because I liked it all. And now they have the place next door for coffee and goodies. So if you're into fancy coffees or tea's then that's your place. And of course you can bring that over to your side on the restaurant side. Looking forward to the next visit. Just get there before your friends do so you get a good parking space or ride together LOL.

This place is awesome, first the food is spectacular. You’re going to get really unique dishes, well balanced and fresh. The Sloopy fries are amazing, never had anything like that. Teriyaki bowl, crispy chicken was perfect, salty and great glaze with solid sticky rice. Miso soup was fantastic, and we got the Cubano buns, perfect amount of pickle and the steamed bun was fantastic. Also the manager welcomed everyone in as the entered, brought menus out to people who had sat outside as they sat and even brought their golden retriever a bowl of water, that’s great service

This place is a whole vibbeeee. The staff is amazing, they are all so nice and attentive. They are also great at recommending things on the menu if it’s your first time here. The pastries were so good! The food was so fresh and hot when it came out… I typically don’t like buns but their Thai shrimp bun was perfectly balanced. Service was really fast as well, music was great, lots of seating and cold AC for these hot Summer days. Such a cute and delicious place. Will definitely be back and highly recommend giving it a try!

The owners husband (I believe?) was great. The hostess/server was kinda meh. She was kind of snobby and not smiley. The tall German guy was SUPER helpful and kind. Gave great suggestions. Food was 15/10

A+. This is a hidden gem in San Antonio. I had three steamed buns (Sloopy, Chicken & Bulgogi w/cheese).

We first had the steamed buns at the farmer’s market at the Pearl and loved them, so we wanted to go to the restaurant to try more! All the steamed buns are great (especially the smoked pork belly and the bulgogi beef). The cilantro-lime noodle bowl was great as well. Another time we went, they were kind enough to split and serve the noodle soup bowl 3 ways for me and my friends to share. The food is great, and the people are always so nice! I have many good reasons to go back :-)

Yelp...you did it again...another great find. Was in the mood for Asian and after a quick search found this place. The staff was super friendly and helpful in decision making and the ambiance was relaxing. The food...WOW!!!! Definitely satisfied my craving. Would 100% recommend

First timer here and I really didn't know what to expect but it was delicious. I was able to taste an array of food but I ordered the Sweet Potato Noodle Bowl, light spice with pork belly and the Thai Shrimp bun. Both were great. I also tasted the edamame both the regular and the spicy. It needed some salt on the regular and the spicy wasn't spicy at all. I also tasted the mushroom dumplings and the shrimp dumplings and both were tasty. It is counter service but I appreciated that the girls at the front took some of our orders from the table. Also, it did take a bit for them to clean up the table and I didn't see a place to take our dirty plates. I would definitely come back to try more food!

I absolutely love Korean food so when I heard about this place I had to come try it. We sampled the bulgogi rice bowl and bulgogi bao buns. Service was great, food was good. I'd definitely go back BUT they are not in my top 5 for Korean in SA.

I walked out of there wishing I could try more. Pork belly for the win. Even my kid is asking to go back.

Quick stop in for lunch. I do appreciate how quickly they serve. I had the curry coconut bowl with chicken. The bowl is large but I would have liked a stronger curry flavor in the broth.

Excellent option for bao buns if you've been looking for them in San Antonio. There's a big variety of flavors to try and I got the pork belly and shrimp buns. Highly recommend the pork one! The inside is really cute with one side split into a bakery offering sandos and beautiful desserts. There's also seating enough for large groups. Counter service for ordering and they are really sweet people.

The employees are always very sweet and welcoming. The ambiance here is very relaxing. I ordered to go this time but I've visited several times and have sat in. The food is amazing! Everything I've ordered thus far is amazing! My favorite is the cubano boa bun. I order at least 3x a month! So good, I'll definitely be returning.

We started eating here often because my spouse loves it. I have enjoyed some of the food I've had in the past but I stopped going because of a bad piece of pork belly in my bao bun. I decided to return because 1. It's close to my home 2. My spouse loves it and 3. I believe in second chances! I'm glad I did! I totally enjoyed my food. The service is friendly and the place is clean with plenty of seating. We will be back!

Tasty Asian food and polite people even at night before closing! Ambiance is trendy in a Texas Asian-friendly way! This place is clean, and they have fair prices! One note, if you order from the "bun" part of the menu know that it's more of an appetizer. Another note, they offer vegan-friendly, and gluten free meals. This restaurant is super efficient! We really enjoyed it.

Great food and atmosphere. The staff are awesome. Had one of the lunch specials and the noodles were delicious.

Last minute food choice downtown after an event and IG was a total WIN! We got them close to closing, but they were so sweet and super quick to service. The place is a good size and really clean. They have larger and smaller tables depending on your party. They even have the larger tables saying "reserved for large parties". The food is fantastic. So much flavor! And they have gluten free options! We will definitely be back.

Cute location. Staff was very welcoming & friendly. I don't care for crispy/fried chicken but got this as recommended by staff and it was really good! Good portion size, enough for me to eat for dinner later. The slaw was good, wish there was more broccoli for some more greens. Nice spot to hit after visiting the farmers market at The Pearl :)

Great food, staff , just very echoey Creative food They will tailor your wants Gps has problems Outside seating and 2 dining areas

I always LOVE Ming's for their bao buns. Vibe is always on point. Service is friendly and I love how they opened a connecting cafe that I can't wait to try out. The strawberry and cream and s'mores Sando's are on my list. My all time is the Bulgogi bao bun. I ordered 2 but should have gotten 3. Next fav is the friend shrimp. Can't wait for another excuse to stop in.

Overall would I eat here again..... yes. I ordered the Chicken Teriyaki and the Creme brûlée Rice pudding. The chicken was a bit dry, I was need more sauce. It did have good flavor and it was crispy and the rice was cooked nicely. The slaw and broccoli in my opinion was nothing to write home about and I felt the Rice pudding was lacking flavor but I liked the concept. That dessert could be incredible if it was altered a bit. Delivery was very fast and the drive was very nice. I can't speak on the ambiance bc I doordashed to my hotel.

Best food I've ever eaten in my whole 31 years of living. The staff is very kind and knowledgeable on every item on the menu from food to drinks. Very clean and has a great ambiance. I will go back and back as long as they're still running their business.

Every visit is always a special one. Today we got an array of steamed buns (noted in no particular order): Bulgogi bun Popper bun Sloopy bun (ginger is prominent) Smoked pork belly bun Thai Shrimp bun I enjoyed every single one but the Thai Shrimp... I said it... The Thai Shrimp... this was due to kiddo scarfing it down before I could even take a picture. He mentioned that shrimp was his fav. I must say, I was guilty of eating the popper bun before a photo too #SorryNotSorry Space was empty when we arrived but got busy soon after we got our food. The flavors were poppin' The jalapeño slices were kickin' Service was incredible Staff friendly (greeted and said good bye) Space was clean Oooh and I also saw that they had Thursday College night happy hour. Plan: kiddo to hook me up with Thai Shrimp bun next week lol we shall see! Will continue to return.

Ordered take out from this place in the late afternoon. But restaurant looked nice and clean when I walked in. Handful of patrons were dining in but def enough space for large groups. Greeted by hostess as soon as I stepped in. Food was ready to go by the time they said it would be and I was in and out in less than 2 min. My wife got the spicy miso ramen with shrimp. She had to water it down a little because it was too spicy for her but I thought it had a nice kick. It's not your traditional ramen. Had cabbage, broccoli and carrots but she said it was interesting and overall enjoyed it. Shrimp was cooked perfectly with good texture and flavor. I got the coconut curry rice with chicken. Chicken was dark meat which I preferred but a little overcooked. But overall the dish was flavorful and the coconut was not too overpowering. Would prob try some of their other dishes in the future.

After a few amazing Tex Mex and Bbq meals, we were ready for something different and Ming's fit the bill. Quiet around 6:30 Tuesday evening but quickly picked up after we were seated. Modern and inviting Decor with a mix of regular and high top tables and ample outdoor seating. Enticing menu and we realized at the end of our meal, we ordered too much. First time seeing a Sakerita so had to try. Their House Dry Sake with Rita mix was the perfect refresher on a very hot day. For starters it was a couple of Baos-Smoked Pork Belly and Chicken Bun with the House cured Pork Belly standing out. The Loaded Bulgogi Fries were indeed loaded and delicious. I'm a big fan of Duck anything-unfortunately the Century Egg wasn't to our liking-possibly the dressing? For entrees, it was Salad Bowl, Lemon Crispy Chicken and Bulgogi Rice Bowl. All were tasty-Crispy Chicken was our favorite. Service was attentive and engaged. It all started in 2011 with Ming's Steamed Buns at a Farmer's Market. They have a second location-La Cantera. Don't miss the Steamed Buns and Sakerita!

Saw their location near La Panaderia by Texas Fiesta area but it was still close, it's still early morning. We took note and planned to visit one day. Last Saturday after a walk around Woodlawn Lake Park, we ended up here. Finally!!! And I don't regret a single bit having our lunch here. Love my summer noodle bun and crispy money bag shrimp. We also ordered Thai curry rice noodle soup which is actually shareable since the serving on the huge bowl is more than enough for two persons. Also enjoyed the century egg which was unlike the authentic ones I tried in Chinatown in NYC, this one is way milder but more flavorful for me. It did not triggered me to throw up since it was really good, especially there's a tiny slice of ginger on each sliced portion of the century egg. Ending our enjoyable lunch with the coconut pandas rice pudding brûlée was a great decision. Not overly sweet, subtly flavored with pandan and just simply delish! I'm planning to be visiting again based on my very pleasant first visit. Definitely be visiting their Fiesta Texas vicinity location next time. Ming's is a great alternative to high-end and also fast-food style Chinese food. Service was excellent, the staff were friendly and warm and a young lady even took her time out to approach each tables apologizing for a slight delay on service...I actually waited a bit to see if she would have at least offer any free food, lol. Anyway, the quality of food and taste with great customer service justifies their pricing. Plus the place looks clean and well-kept, although I can't imagine what it's like during busy dining hours.

Place is nice and clean. We were briefly served, as far as it goes. We were asked if we wanted chopsticks and forks and brought an extra bowl upon request. The food was unremarkable, bland, heavy, and soggy. The bun: weak, fell apart after one bite. The rice: unsalted, bland. The slaw: unremarkable. The beef: extremely thick coated, soggy and sweet. Could not finish. The broccoli: crunchy and light, enjoyable. It was almost $30, for minimal service with a food undeserving of anything more than a star. This restaurant leans very heavily into the "contemporary" if that is your desire.

Found this place on a whim and was glad I tried it. I came on a Thursday early evening and it was empty, not busy at all. Place is clean and lots of seating options. The worker was nice and the food came out timely. We ordered: Lemon wings, loaded sloopy fries, chicken bun, coconut pandan rice brulee, and a kids chicken meal. If ever visiting SA (or if you live there) and want a good asian infusion food, I would definitely give this one a try. Thoughts on the food: Chicken bun- very taster but was falling apart. The bun split before I even ate it. lemon wings- different, very tasty, just wish they were more crispy. Load bulgogi fries- very good, I recommend trying. I think they could cut the meat though which would make it easier to eat evenly. coconut pandan rice brulee- the top part was a big too thick which make the sugar hard to crunch, it should be thinner. The rice pudding itself was flavored well and you can taste the pandan. It was also well balanced and not overly sweet. Kids meal- I liked that it includes broccoli and my son loved the chicken.

Mings cafe and Ming's slaps always!! Tried a Sando it was bussin!! Ming's is always a go too! Especially on a rainy day it hits differently!! Service was amazing as always and super cute that they opened next door the cafe!

Unsweetened iced tea 7/10 Had a little funny flavor to it. Maybe the type of tea they use, not sure. Wasn't terrible but not what I was expecting. Teriyaki crispy chicken 8/10 Crispy Chicken: flavor was amazing. Crisp was amazing. Breading was also delicious. Cooked perfectly. Teriyaki glaze: flavor was really good, but it only had enough to glaze the chicken, nothing else in the dish. Cabbage Slaw: little gingery, wasn't a huge fan, I don't like ginger, but I mixed a little bit in with the rice. Broccoli: there was only 3 pieces, a little undercooked for me, and just plain. No seasoning or anything on it. Again extra teriyaki would have been nice to coat the broccoli too. White Rice: was good, very sticky, but just plain white rice. Again, more teriyaki to coat the rice as well.

I've driven past Ming's countless times and never thought to check out the area. It was not until my partner spontaneously stopped and suggested to try Ming's. Before I get to the great, the only downside during our visit was how humid it was inside the restaurant. Extremely moist temperature. I ordered Ming's Teriyaki Crispy Chicken which I highly recommend - the crispy chicken was insanely delicious! I need to try and cook chicken like this. My partner ordered the bulgogi bun and Ming's Cilantro Lime Noodle. The staff weee welcoming and informative. Service was great!

I have been a Ming's fan for many years (including bixcar and farmers market days) and this incarnation is their best yet. You can count on the food having fresh ingredients, interesting flavors, and contrasting textures. This location has indoor seating as well as a large patio with a busy city feel. Getting a rice bowl or noodle bowl at Ming's is a guilt-free pleasure because you can enjoy the dining experience and know that you are taking care of your health, too.

My husband & I tried Mings on a last minute whim and we were not disappointed! The place was cute and has some really fun artwork! The staff were friendly and quick with everything. The Baos were definitely high on the scale out of baos we've had before! The Shrimp bao was my favorite! But they were all pretty good, the flavors worked, and the stuffing was perfectly portioned! My husband loved the spicy sichuan noodles! They weren't too spicy but they were just enough! The cold noodles are perfect for that noodle craving in hotter weather. Overall we would totally go back and try some more items!

Craving Chinese and found this gem. Tried the money bag shrimp dumplings for a starter and they taste as good as they look. Added protein (shredded chicken) to both noodles and made the soup more filling. Also recommend trying the beef and broccoli and the bulgogi loaded fries (shareable but had it as an entree). I will definitely visit here again.

Let me tell you the MAIN reason I went to Ming's - I wanted to finally try a century egg! This has been on my list for ages and I am so happy I stopped by to check it off. Please do not be put off by the color, Ming's century egg tastes like the most succulently soaked ramen egg you have ever experienced, definitely met and exceeded my expectations! As for the buns and noodle dishes, they were definitely good! Yet, there was something that wasn't exactly fantastic. Some flavor in the dishes that I can't quite put my finger on was a bit too much and made the items all taste too similar. I do love the variety of bao buns you can purchase individually, allowing you to try different kinds at once so that is a plus! I would like to go back and try some more to see if it may have been a fluke with the flavoring. Regardless, an overall good experience that I would recommend!

First time here and we loved it! The employees were kind and very helpful. Service was quick! There were so many things on the menu we wanted to try, so definitely going back to try some more dishes. My favorite on this visit was the pork belly bao bun and loaded sloopy fries. There is a cafe in there as well so we got some iced coffees to go and they were great as well!

I recommended everything about this place. I had the spicy miso soup, with beef, everyone was so friendly and kind. Can't wait to come again. I have so much more to try,

I love fried rice and the picture looked good but the fried rice was dark in color. Too much soy sauce maybe.‍

Love Ming's !! The perfect dinner spot when you're craving something full of flavor but don't want to bust out your fancy clothes. Stroll into Ming's you can't miss, with their plethora of options including vegetarian and gluten free. I personally love an order counter and that's what you can expect here. I didn't get to try drinks this time around but will have to next time they look delicious! Noteworthy were the shrimp dumplings they were not only delicious but came in the cutest shapes, unlike anywhere I've had before!

Food is basic, but sometimes very good. (Sometimes not as good.) Our kids love it because its simple no spice in kids meal. Thats the main reason we come back, because they always ask to come here. Over priced. $60 for lunch is wild. Workers are not pleasant.

Went there with a large group to celebrate. A variety of food was ordered and here are our thoughts. Bao, bulgogi and pork belly were great. Pork belly was crispy outside and moist on the inside. Szechuan cold noodles were fantastic, my favorite dish. On the downside, the curry and ramen were lacking. Food came quickly and service was friendly. All in all, I would recommend Ming's but stick to the large variety of buns and noodle bowls.

Ming's is fireeeee! I could not recommend this place enough honestly. We walked in and ordered to sit outside. Quick and easy. There were about 8-9 other tables there on a Friday night and only took about 15-20 minutes for our food, but it was well worth it! The steamed buns were phenomenal. We ordered the cubano, sloopy, and bulgogi -- each amazing with flavors. Our favorite was the cubano and bulgogi. The thinly sliced pork belly on that cubano did something for my heart. I immediately felt like I was in someone's kitchen because that was cooked with some serious love! We also ordered the shrimp crispy dumplings and they were great! They came with 2 different dipping sauces and we really enjoyed the whole pieces of shrimp chopped up -- great flavor and super crispy! We were surprised this place wasn't more busy tbh this food was amazing and the service was also great!! Will definitely be back.

Was headed to a Yelp event (@Hopscotch nearby) and my bf suggested we go for dinner, based on his friend's feedback, so we made it here by word of mouf! When we arrived someone yelled out to welcome us, but we couldn't see who or where it came from lol.. It took us a while to skim the menu because everything sounds so delicious.. the place wasn't packed per se, but there was a good amount of people moving about. We ordered and sat outside to beautiful weather. Seems the team was just really busy, food was made to order and brought to our table about 10 mins later. I ordered the Cilantro-Lime rice noodles with tofu (sauce on side), and my bf ordered the Nuac Gong sweet potato noodles (wondering why the menu doesn't show most dishes).. and their most popular Beef Bao (can't remember name and it's not showing in menu sorry!) I'd never had Bao before and I'd go back just to order several of those.. super tasty! With kimchi and the tender beef, seasoned and saucy tastiness. Oh, and they have a good selection of fountain sodas too!

Century Egg -- very fun and cool experience that I'm really glad we tried. I'd honestly eat it again! It was nothing like I expected, had a bit more of a gelatinous texture than I thought, but over all very cool. Bao -- we ordered chicken and Bulgogi beef. The chicken was "good, but a little dry" but was still really good. The Bulgogi beef was INCREDIBLE. So good that we ordered more at the end of our meal. Bulgogi Beef Fries -- DELICIOUS and the best thing on the menu. The sauce was perfect, the beef was rich, and the kimchi was deliciously fermented. Cold Schezuan noodles -- The sauce was delicious, and the shrimp was perfect. But the noodles were doughy and not my cup of tea. I loved the edamame and I ate everything but the noodles in the bowl, that's how much I didn't enjoy them. I can imagine that others would really enjoy it if they were used to it, but I won't be ordering this again. Chicken teriyaki bowl -- skip it if you don't like fish, It tasted like a fried fish because of the sauce. Without the sauce, it would've been absolutely delish! Ma-La Sweet Potato Noodles -- so good! The sauce was stellar and the tofu was deliciously done! I wish this would've been my main dish instead of one I just tried. House Limeade -- delish! It's a dragon fruit limeade and it was really tasty. A couple people at the table didn't enjoy it, but I thought it was really refreshing. Overall, I'd rate this a 4, it was pretty good. And I'd return, just order something different for my main meal.

Very clean and beautiful place, love the aesthetic. The food was overall good as well, but it felt pretty underwhelming. I had the Ma La Sweet Potato noodles which are very spicy (a good thing!) with two pieces of broccoli, and some HEB spring mix. I added fried tofu for $5 which seemed pretty pricey considering the noodle dish itself is $12. The taste was okay but for $17 an entree I'd expect more, considering there are amazing Asian inspired restaurants in town. Overall it's not bad at all, just seems a little over priced for what it is. Definitely thinking of this place as a cocktail and appetizers only option.

Best Cubano bun in San Antonio and there chicken teriyaki bowl is amazing, my partner and I decided to try out some of the dessert options they had and wow they are good! The vibes are lovely and the choice of music was great. The service was great they helped me sign up with there rewards and I got some dessert for free because of that!! To quote a random customer " Ming's was the move"

The cafe is comfortable and spacious, and the service is friendly and professional. Connected to the cafe is a boba sandwich shop, and the environment is pleasant to the eyes. The dishes were not Chinese or Vietnamese, but were more Hawaiian or Japanese, which took me off guard because I came for Chinese/Vietnamese cuisine, not Poke or Teriyaki. If dishes are mostly Poke or Japanese, they need to change the name of the cafe because it sends a false advertisement of what tourists may expect to have.

The sticky bun sandwiches were all phenomenal. Korean bbq fries were so good. The miso soup was burned however. They seemed embarrassed and apologetic and offered a refund on the ramen. Everything else was amazing.

Tonight, we headed to @mingsthing for dinner. We've never had a bad experience and tonight was fantastic as usual. Dad had the Mixed Berry Limeade, I had the Sake Sangria, and my husband had the Sake Mule. Their Bao Buns are good and filling. My husband had the BBQ Bao Bun, Dad had the Pork Belly Bun, and I had the Bulgogi one. My husband had the Ma-La Sweet Potato Noodle with grilled shrimp. I had the Coconut Curry Rice Bowl with grilled shrimp. I ordered Dad the Summer Noodles but he liked my food more. We ordered the Ming's Wings but was too full to eat any. We definitely took a lot of food home! @mingsthing is part of the AAPI Month. Show your passport all month long and get 10% off.

The hubs and I did a quick lunch here and let me tell you I did not disappoint! The buns were amazing while the service could've been better and a little quicker the food made up for it! The cucumber seaweed salad is probably one of the best I've had yet! It's in a great spot near the pearl definitely going back!

I have a thing for Ming!! I love this place, it hits every time. I've only ever gotten take out, but the atmosphere inside is a cool vibe. Limited seating inside, but they have outdoor seating too. Employees are always friendly and kind. And the best part is their food!! I love their steamed buns!! My favs so far are bulgogi and the Thai shrimp. They are so tasteful and delicious! I can't go to Ming's without ordering one. So yummy and only $4-$5. Last time I was here I got Ming's Wings. They were incredible!! I got the spicy, and there was a kick, but it wasn't too much of a heat. So so delicious! Would recommend! Time before that, I got one of their chicken rice noodle bowls with a fried egg on top. It was really good, but I think there was a little more lettuce and slaw then I'd prefer, but it was still great! Next time you're in the mood for some Asian comfort food, give this place a try!

Super yummy place and everything is fresh! The banana peanut butter sando is amazing. I went during their lunch special and it is a very good deal, got the curry with chicken and a house made lemonade for $16.00. Also ordered shrimp wrapped in wonton paper super tasty. The inside is nicely decorated and has laid back staff. Will be back again!

Great staff! Allergy friendly! Sign up for the rewards. Lots of Bao choices and always ask about the specials!

Stopped by here after yoga. Great location! It's a little bit loud inside, but those darn SATX flies were outside. The food is delicious. I loved the flavor of the Ma La noodles. Sichuan noodles were tasty and cold numbing. The pandan rice pudding is great. The cauliflower is so spicy it made me sweat. The bao was good too. Servers were super nice and Ms. Ming is there and checked in with us.

The is place was okayyy. Definitely not the worst but idk if I'll be coming back. The edamame was so incredibly salty that it was inedible. The bao buns were delicious and full of flavor!! The crispy shrimp dumplings were good as well. The Miso noodle soup was so bland it was like drinking boiled water with veggies and noodles. The beef bulgogi rice bowl was good tho and had nice flavor. The service was meh, the girl talking our order seemed super annoyed and in-convinced by us being there. I would come back here with friends if they wanted to try it but probably won't be going out of my way to come here.