Logan P.
Google
This will be very long winded, so to sum it up, The Mountaineers produce amazing books from an experienced knowledge base with online courses also being an excellent. The practical courses are fairly expensive for being very hit or miss, due entirely to teacher/volunteer staff with a constantly patronizing attitude. I will start with the good parts, the Mountaineer's books and online courses are actually very thorough and worth their money. I own several books produced by them with information that is a great reminder of the basics or something new to learn. Those who write for the Mountaineer's are clearly experts in their field. In early 2021 I took a navigation course from the Kitsap Branch as a refresher for the basics so I can advance to more fun activities according to their course structure. The online navigation course was great for beginners and those who grew up hiking and traveling, but needed a refresher on the details. The bad side was the in person volunteer staff with the practical test. I grew up hiking in the woods of Colorado; climbed dozens of 14 thousand foot mountains there and traveled for work, hiking in national parks and other areas when I could. I do not have a "resume" of achievements for this as hiking is my peace and hobby. I wasn't going to argue to skip basic courses when I joined "at a price" and looked at it as a refresher and learning experience. When the few volunteer staff that would talk to the students asked my experience with navigation and basically being outside, they shut down any conversation the moment I told them I was from Colorado. Why? There was a long list of gear to get for this basic course, most I did agree with, some was a little overkill, all was expensive and required according to the teachers. When I arrived for the practical, less than half of the students had any of it besides just a compass, which somehow was ok, making those who did get everything, feel played. The volunteers for this course were not friendly and far more interested in talking with their friends/colleagues than answering questions from students. For a structured navigation course everyone just winged it. The volunteers were also very outspoken to anyone else at the park that wasn’t a part of the course. People with dogs were glared at and the volunteers showed NO courtesy around them. People on dirt bikes were yelled at my staff, chastising them even though they had their own trail. Some questions of the exam were written well. If you and your course partner aced them, however the volunteers had no idea want to do with you, much less talk or answer any questions. The last question was poorly written and the entire group was confused. The volunteers were VERY selective on whom they answered questions from. I was told by one of the volunteers that if I was such a hotshot to figure it out. Most people gave up and followed others instead of navigating their own as we were instructed to do. Those who came out other than the expected end point were also chastised. I am good with faces and through all my years of hiking since, I have not seen one of those volunteers out here, sadly nor any of the first time hikers from that course. The Peninsula and Cascade range is big, but not that big. Later in I took an REI kayaking safety course which was a blast. Funny enough we ran into an equivalent Mountaineers. The REI teacher went to greet the Mountaineers teacher and on brand, the Mountaineers teacher was upset to see us, wanting our practice area. WE were courteous and moved even though we there 30 minutes before they showed up. As I passed the students, they were all laughably miserable. So buy their books, but there is no need to pay money to experience the Seattle Freeze with a class.