The Original Greene Turtle

Restaurant · Ocean City

The Original Greene Turtle

Restaurant · Ocean City

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11601 Coastal Hwy, Ocean City, MD 21842

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Sports-bar chain with a casual menu of burgers, ribs & a variety of brews, plus plenty of TVs.  

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11601 Coastal Hwy, Ocean City, MD 21842 Get directions

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11601 Coastal Hwy, Ocean City, MD 21842 Get directions

+1 410 723 2120
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"Whether you’re part of the mug club or just here to scarf down some wings, this quintessential Maryland bar that got its start in North Ocean City continues to draw in thirsty throngs in search of a proper sports pub." - Tierney Plumb, Adele Chapin, Tim Ebner

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Ed Vigezzi

Google
On a cold winter day, a group of 14 showed up for lunch. Given it is the off-season, there were only a handful of people in the restaurant. It truly is a sports bar with great decor, and lots of TV to watch your sport. Jean was the bartender and also waited on our table. It’s an understatement, but she was fantastic! A positive attitude, helpful to everyone, and just really did an incredible job. She really hustled to get us our drinks, get us our food, and get us back on the road to our activities. For lunch I had the cheeseburger sliders. Served on a pretzel bun, they were delicious. Many in our group opted for warmer, filling items, like Marvin’s chili, and Maryland crab soup. Lots others had burgers and a few salads. Everyone left satisfied for the delicious meal and the great service. The restaurant has lots of seating area, including an area upstairs. In addition, there is a large bar. While it is not busy now due to being off-season, I’m sure this place is hopping during the summer. So if you are in the area stop on by. Have a drink or even a meal, and enjoy the atmosphere.

Steve R

Google
Atmosphere was great for a sportbar. Lots of TVs. Place was full but Got seated right away. As for the food and service, not so great. Waitress was fine stopping by at the beginning but barely saw her after she took our order and food took forever to come out. I understand they were busy but the table next to us got there stuff before us and they sat down 15 min after us. Two of us ordered wings (one hot one mild) and two ordered nachos. They loved the wings but myself and a friend had the nachos (one chicken/one pork) . They were really bad. No flavor in the meat or cheese for either. Chips and meat were clumped. We said something to the waitress but that’s about all that happened Just for reference, I had nachos the next day at the local bar and they were excellently flavored. Both meat and cheese. I’d avoid that place in the future.

Joshow 74

Google
Definitely a must visit. Very good menu with a wide variety of options. The street corn dip was excellent and their take on chicken and waffles was fantastic. The best part was the service, we did have a problem with one meal but the waitress took it back no questions asked and it was replaced quickly with something else. Fixing problems often is just as important (or more) than not making them and they did great.

Ella Collis

Google
Was nice at first then our waitress was rude and forgot food and charged wrong. There are flies around the food do not recommend

Jordan Vargo

Google
Food was pretty decent. I was relatively happy with my burger but I know others at my table weren’t as impressed with their foods. Waitress was friendly and service was pretty fast. The atmosphere was a little bit worn. The women’s restroom was not great. The original lock and the replacement lock on the stall didn’t work unless you put force into pulling the door closed. There were several puddles on the ground, there was water damage/build up on the ceiling.

Thomas Twilley

Google
$200 before tip will get you dirty silverware and dirty food containers. Definitely zero attention to detail on a quiet Thursday night. Food and drinks were good and so was the waitress.

Andy B

Google
Nice atmosphere and service, just ok food. My main issue was the nachos. My wife ordered these lackluster nachos for $14 and forbade me from sending them back. Jalapeños were fresh and very good. The chips and the tiny bit of cheese were disappointing, the chicken was almost non-existent. If you look closely, you can spot about five BB sized pieces of chicken. Edit: thank you for responding to my review. However, it should not be on the customer to send back such an obviously poorly made appetizer. This is on the cooks, waitress, and management. They need training on recognizing poor dishes and fixing them so it doesn't become a customer issue. Some retraining is needed.

Frank Baldwin

Google
Woke up this morning and could not find my wallet. Had it yesterday so I called several places where I had been. Called the Green Turtle and Dawn said Joey had found my wallet. I got it back intact. It is so refreshing in this day and age to meet honest people. Dawn and Joey truly made my day. By the way the food and service were excellent too. I highly recommend the Green Turtle.

Sandy B.

Yelp
We visited this tavern several times as my husband liked his Guinness Stoudt draft beer. The pub food was good. We used takeout for wings and cheesesteak egg rolls. Another time We shared crab dip. I had crab vegetable soup. We had a Rachel sandwich. I tried rum and Pepsi as I am not much of a drinker. We had good service.

Steve R.

Yelp
Had the unfortunate luck to end at this place tonight. It was slightly after 10:30 so all they had was the "late night menu". Beware.... the renowned hand breaded chicken tenders won't be served late night. They literally serve tenders from the kids menu. Cheapest of the cheap. I'd be ashamed to serve my kid these. . $16 for 5 tenders. Oh and overcooked at that lol. Want sauce? Sorry that's extra lmao. Seriously avoid this train wreck.

Tegan A.

Yelp
Some solid food it was good especially the tacos. The ambiance was cute too. Service was good they accommodated for our very large group. The server was also very nice.

Chris L.

Yelp
Not bad. I do not like the one in salisbury but this one is much better. It was not but the food was pretty good.

Maxine J.

Yelp
I'm in my late 50's so coming to OCMD is not anything new ... we just haven't been since before COVID. Anyways, we're here this weekend and I am, quite honestly, STILL loving all of the family establishments up and down Costal Highway. The Green Turtle near my house is one of my favorite quickie watering holes. Unfortunately, the only thing I enjoyed in this ... The Original Green Turtle (established 1976) was the ambiance (typical eclectic decor, huge tv's, sports memorabilia, etc.), service (shout out to Gavin), the Nutz and Berriez specialty shot and the friends I went with. All of our food came out overdone/near burnt and just not very appetizing at all. We had a huge spread of bar food: pigs in the blanket, parmesan/garlic wings, chicken tenders, onion rings, french fries, bbq wings, cheesesteak egg rolls, and old bay wings. Super sad to report that we. were. just. not. satisfied. I would STILL come back (#traditions) but just to drink.

Dawn A.

Yelp
We just arrived tonight and needed a quick dinner. We've been here many times before but not in a long time. Food is def pub fare nothing other than what you'd expect. I did enjoy the Jamaican Jerk tacos ... only 2 served....3 would've felt like it was what I paid $17 with a bag of chips as a side. Family of 4 ... 3 of us had an entree and 1 had an appetizer and our bill was $90.94 ... that's more than we expected

Candice P.

Yelp
This bar was within walking distance to my hotel and many other hotels in the area but because it's too cold outside, we decided to drive there. It was a nice, comfortable, low-lit sports bar. We sat at the bar and it wasn't very crowded inside. We came around 9pm on a Wednesday night and had a few drinks and dinner. I got the crab cakes with sweet potato fries plus a side salad and my other half had the chicken wings. The food was great! I didn't realize the price of the crab cakes was in the 30s but I think it was worth it. The bar tender was nice and took care of us quickly, checking in every 10mins or so. There were plenty of tvs and seating areas. Some bar games were available and claw machines by the front door for the kids.

John G.

Yelp
Great place for a quick meal but you have to hit it at a good time! It can be busy! We had the Beer Battered Fish & Chips they were really crispy and had a great tasting batter over very tender flounder the fries came out hot and a little spicy! The ambiance sports bar pub come in sit down relax enjoy the casualness. Madalyn our server did alright could've came back earlier to ask about a drink refresher.

Justin B.

Yelp
I was quite pleased with this Green Turtle! Staff was friendly and helpful and the burgers we had were very solid. They can actually cook them medium rare!! Inside was very busy, there wasn't any blank space on the wall that wasn't taken up by a sign or a TV. Their prices were fair, considering the rest of Ocean City prices. My only 2 complaints would be a leaking ceiling to the table next to us. We watched a server bring a place of food over and stand right under the drip where it was dripping on people's food. They only had a bucket catching the water, seemed like they didn't really care about the leak and just watched a quick fix. Also, if you want fries with your burger, too bad, you get a bag of chips. I thought this was a cop out, and a way to cut corners. Overall not a bad place!

Veniesta G.

Yelp
Sorry , I was hungry ......I asked the server was it all crab or mostly filling? She advised me it was mostly crab (NOT!) . However it was not bad at all just not what I wanted and for the price , I'll give it a pass . My husband had the fish and chips and said the fish was light and flakey , the fries were not bad at all. Pro: The server was friendly and attentive, the environment was quiet ( we went for lunch) . And there was parking in the lot . I would go here again , just not for the crab cakes.

Vince N.

Yelp
It's slim pickings when it comes to late night dining in OC. Enter the Green Turtle which is open until midnight. ATMOSPHERE: They're your typical homey neighborhood bar with TV's and anything and everything in between adorning the walls and ceilings. LATE NIGHT MENU: Bar apps, sandwiches, pizza, steamer clams, wings and desserts. BEVERAGE: Creamsicle Crush - $8.25 Why are alcohol menu prices missing from many OC restaurants? Anyway, I'd pay any amount for this orally orgasmic creamy vodka drink! Highly recommended. FOOD: Wings - $22.00 (15 ct) Offered in no less than eleven flavors, I chose Old Bay and ranch dressing. Want blue cheese? Pay extra. The wings were flavorful and crispy. Crab Dip - $20.00 I liked it and my spouse loved it. I'm pretty sure it's cream cheese, crab meat and cheese. Thick and hearty. Comes with thick soft pretzel sticks for dipping. I'm not a pretzel fan but it was the perfect combo. SERVICE: We arrived at 10pm on a Tuesday night and got seated immediately as the place was mostly vacant. A friendly guy immediately came over after we just sat down and asked us if we're ready to order. Umm how about a few minutes to peruse the menu? LOL. His shift was coming to an end so he said the bartenders would be taking over. A friendly gal came over twice to check on us. OVERALL: Good apps and drinks. Come "early" for a bigger menu selection.

Jennifer B.

Yelp
Order seasoned rice and received white rice. Asked our waitress for the seasoned rice , she goes back to kitchen and comes out with that is our seasoned rice. I asked seasoned with what, she offered again to go ask, didn't want her to waste anymore time trying to convince me that was seasoned. This was white rice, seasoned with the water they cooked in. Please take it off as seasoned and trying to pass. It was the stickiest, whitest rice and not good.

Josh J.

Yelp
Cobb salad and chicken tender were good. The honey mustard is really good. Our server was nice and attentive.

Jill T.

Yelp
Came in with a group of over 25 (I lost count) from a volleyball tournament for dinner (without a reservation or calling ahead...it was a spur of the moment plan) & we lucked out! They were able to accommodate us upstairs which was the best! Arcade games for the smaller kids & our team of 16/17 year old girls were kept happy too! Our waitress, Rachel really shined! She made awesome cocktails (happy parents!), got all of our orders quickly & kept everything organized! Other staff helped deliver the food & were really helpful as well! Good was a great- EVERYONE was happy which is not small feat with a party this large (& with some very particular teenage girls!) we truly appreciate being accommodated & will absolutely come back!

Mike F.

Yelp
A must visit if just for the Crabby Melt and a couple of Nati Boh's. Lots of ambiance, classic pub feeling, and local flavor. Dine like you're a local.

Laurie S.

Yelp
Out of town on a mini vacation and stopped in for dinner and drinks. Mexican street corn dip and fried pickle burger were delicious! Host and server were friendly and fantastic! Would recommend!

Veronica C.

Yelp
Your normal American style bar and dining. What more can I say, it feels like a local dive vibe. The beer was good. My Buffalo chicken sandwich was hot out of the kitchen and o-m-g it hit the spot. Took me back home to my old neighborhood bar. Seating is limited so expect to be offered a high top of you want the host to seat you. The majority of the diners are older and you'll see some youthful groups. The service is good but they were short staff. Hey, I understand. If you want your American style meal and want to feel somewhat like a local, swing by here.

Jim G.

Yelp
Great service and consistent product. Really enjoyed the time and the crab dip. Great spot for the family or for drinks even in the off season.

Mike B.

Yelp
Great bar. We got a bunch of appetizers and a couple beers before dinner. There was so much food, we filled up w the apps and took the rest home. Great service. Lots of locals. Always a fun place.

Laurie D.

Yelp
Had the best time here! Great food, fantastic service. Incredibly fun ambiance. Icing on the experience was Stacey the most fabulous bartender ever!! Thank you Stacey for your far above and beyond hospitality.

Josh F.

Yelp
We waited a long time to get in here. It was not worth the wait. I had the crab cake sandwich. I found two pieces of shell in it. Kind of ruined it for me. The fries were ok. Summed up, we were expecting something special. Instead we waited a long time for average bar food.

Kimberly W.

Yelp
This place blew me out of the water. The service was great and food was outstanding. The Mexican corn dip is definitely a recommendation! My burger was fantastic even had the Mexican corn dip on it. My husband got the hog and the meat fell right off the bone.

Jace L.

Yelp
This place deserves more than 5 stars, our waitress was very nice! The food was so good aswell, my family had a good time eating here! 1000/10 will recommend! ( waitress name was cindy)

Djinel S.

Yelp
Food is great every time & awesome selection of Beers ,, And that awesome Mexican "OSCAR" keeps my drinks full ! keep up the good Mijo !

Bel T.

Yelp
Our old 80's hangout is now a great family stop for lunch, on and off season. The only problem with the menu is - making a decision, as everything is so delicious!!!!

Alex E.

Yelp
When I walk in I say "where's my seat?" The server says "what's to eat?" I say "always meat". The server says "please sit down". I've been coming to this Gweene Turtle for years and it's always a hit. I love getting wild and acting like a freak as much as the next sports fan (I watch sports at 1.5x speed the first time but then watch again the next day (with a cleared mind) at 0.5x speed to study strategy) and nothing keeps me going like a half pound of peel and eat shrimp. There's butter on it but I won't tell. Most expect old bay only but butter and old bay can be expected (but I won't tell). Great job to the staff.

Robert B.

Yelp
We went in for Monday night football and some food and drink. The good, plenty of tvs, clean and personable. The bad, food. Our order was bruchetta with crab, bread almost not toasted at all, the crab tasted unseasoned like it was just put on out of a can. The crab soup tasted like chili powder and tomato paste and was room temperature. My cheesesteak tasted burnt and the fries were limp. We have eaten at other green turtle's and has always been decent. We do not like to complain, i ate my cheestake left the fries, she picked on the bruchetta, but left most of it. She had a spoonful of the soup and was like this is the worst i have ever had, after discusion of not wanting to complain, the soup was the last straw, The waitress came over and asked if everything was ok, wife told her the soup was terrible and waitress appoligezed and took it away. The bill came and we expected the 10.00 soup to be removed but it wasnt. Didnt make a deal of it paid and left. We discussed it again how it was the worst overall food experiance of eating out So decided to write this reveiw. Maybe it was just a off night, but definitely left a bad taste in our mouths of visiting there again

Karen T.

Yelp
We stopped in for lunch this week. The food is really good. We had a chicken quesadilla appetizer, tacos, crab cake sandwich and burger. We really enjoyed all of it and the waitress was very friendly. If you like sports, they had all the college games playing on a Saturday and there were a lot of people there to see the games.

Vincent G.

Yelp
Nice place. Reasonable price. Friendly staff nice sports bar lots of choices for apparel

Ingrid S.

Yelp
The Original Greene Turtle is our local bar since we live across the street in the summer. I've been coming here since the place opened. Putting aside the sheer convenience, however, the OGT has great crushes and Mai Tais, solid pub food and surprisingly some of the better crab cakes I've had on the island. Never expected to find a good crab cake at the OGT, but they've got one. Their patty melt is juicy and delicious--enough for two meals. Perfect place to watch a game. Music is never too loud. The OGT is where other bartenders and cooks go to unwind after a busy day. Also the bartenders are the best, with the perfect blend of cynicism and positivity. We love them all!

Melissa A.

Yelp
We are visiting for the weekend and tried this place. From the moment we walked in, we were impressed. Vault was our server and he was amazing! We got salads and sandwiches m, beers and drinks. Can't wait to return!!

Rae H.

Yelp
Very cool place. A must try while in OC. The environment was welcoming. The wait staff were all very friendly and their food were all very tasty.

Ajmycek2 M.

Yelp
I wanted to do 0 stars but i have to put one so I can post this. Food, service, ambiance.... would love to comment on all of the above but unfortunately was rudly turned away, profiled, and denied service for absolutely no legit reason moments after we had sat down. As a person who has professionally worked in the food industry for the past 15 years, this service is disgusting and I cannot believe the immaturity and lack of professionalism. After asking our server a question, I was met with an intense attitude and immediately realized I was the target of negative energy and immaturity. After our party of 3 (24, 25 and 31), all ordered a round of drinks, we were ID'ed, totally normal. A few moments later our rude server disappeared and we were approached by a worker who looked like he couldn't be more than 17 years old, who said he needed to recheck our IDs. Weird, but we understand it's senior week so we complied. we were left sitting for close to 20 minutes, no IDs, no server, no asking if we wanted food, nothing. We asked the child worker if we could have our IDs back as he passed by, and he said they were just "double checking" them. Finally our rude and obviously unhappy server brings back our IDs and says she cannot serve us. Doesn't ask if we still want to order food, just kept saying she can't serve us. No reason given. We ask for her manager and he comes over and says one of our IDs "looked weird" but he could not point out any details on the ID that allegedly looked weird. We asked him which ID out of the 3 looked weird, and he wouldn't tell us at first. Finally, he said it was the 1992 ID. The 1992 ID???? you're kidding me. I'm 31 years old and look like it too. My girlfriend and her friend are 24 and 25, we're all covered in tattoos, like again I know it's senior week but come on. He was stumbling all over his words trying to make up an excuse as to why my ID looked weird. once again he kept saying he couldnt serve us, never asked if we wanted to still get food, nothing. So we left. I am still in shock at how we were sat, greeted by a server with an awful attitude who clearly did not want to serve us from the start, and then saw as the Green Turtle staff all worked together to get us to leave by claiming our IDs were strange and they wouldn't serve us. My girlfriend and her friend are long time OC locals and have never had a good experience at the Green Turtle. We thought we would try it out tonight, but we were proved right as our server essentially kicked us out because she didn't like that I asked her a question upon our first interactions, and there on out refused to serve us. She just had to make her staff play along and act as though my ID was a fake, even though I am 31 years old. We kept looking around at all the high school kids in the bar and restaurant, and were wondering how many actual fake IDs they've taken tonight Without a second thought. The dining experience was the worst I've ever had in my 31 years of life. Green turtle is a disgrace to Ocean City and everywhere else in Maryland. Disgusting.

Kayla P.

Yelp
Used to be better before Covid, but it seems to have gone downhill which sucks for the business :( I would say the Greene Turtle is just mid.

Robert D.

Yelp
Best waiter I ever had friendly answer all my questions food was awesome Cheesesteak awesome

Baylee W.

Yelp
Went there for a New Year's Eve dinner, atmosphere was great, Service was really good too, our waitress was great. We got a draft beer that was amazing. The food was just not very good. The fish and chips could have been crispier, and the wings had a weird char on them that tasted burnt. Great place to hang out but would probably go elsewhere for a dinner.

Kyle S.

Yelp
Awful service, completely unorganized, and totally scatterbrained. It started with the girl who told us it was a 15 min wait for 4 people. That turned into an hour wait not to mention they took people who came after us. Tell me that isn't a kick in the teeth. Once we were seated we waited another 15min for our server to finally notice us. She took our drink orders and disappeared for another 20min. Once she finally reappeared she brought back half of our drinks. She then took our orders and vanished for over 45min. I flagged her down and asked her where my simple appetizer was. Puzzled, she went into the back and handed me my appetizer. What was suppose to be a crisp Capresè Salad was a warm mountain of cheese and half ripe tomatoes. Ready for this?? 45min later our order came out, well most of it. Three chicken finger platters complete with cold fries, mostly breaded air, and what seemed to be fish tacos, without the fish. Yeah, they forgot the fish. Soooooo we waited until they brought out my BBQ wrap, which was really good, kind of like a surprise. Would have been better if they brought it out with the rest of the food. But I digress. The chicken fingers looked good, would have been better if they used chicken. Did I mention that It was all breading? Would have loved to send it back but our server, Houdini, was nowhere to be found. So when Houdini finally made a rare appearance, we asked for a manager. He/she must have been performing somewhere else because they never showed, BUT, guess what did? THE CHECK! $98 for fried bread, salad tacos, and cheese. We were going to walk out but apparently it's against the law to just walk out without paying. NEVER AGAIN! Not even for nostalgic purposes will we go back. You want to take that change that you'll get service like this? And have to pay your hard earned money for service/ food like this?

Amber H.

Yelp
My boyfriend and I ordered 4 apps around 10:45-11pm. They wouldn't let us order anything else food wise. All the apps were very mediocre. The chips were so stale we couldn't eat them and the fries were old.

M M.

Yelp
keep a close eye on what you order here. they are known to double charge and play koi when called out on incorrect charges on tabs.

Brett L.

Yelp
Decent small pub food, good price, only downside is the ac ducts dripping water every now and then.

Dennis G.

Yelp
This was such a terrible experience. 45 minute wait then my wife was being dripped on in our booth . Was told it was the air conditioner dripping on our booth when we complained about it. Nothing was done except for me changing seats with my wife. Another 45 minutes till we got our meals. I would highly recommend not going there. The Green Turtle in Rehobeth is so much better than this dump!

Bill B.

Yelp
Bad food all around. Cheesesteak had no lettuce, tomato or onion. French onion soup was disgusting and no sals for quesadillas

Melissa E.

Yelp
Awesome place to grab drinks and crabby snacks. Actual locals tend the bar and give local accommodations to travelers with smiles and upbeat demeanor. Fun staff who truly make accommodations to customers. Safe environment to drink for ladies night. Glad to see local bars hiring local people esp in the off season. OGT

Amy M.

Yelp
We got in late from our trip to Ocean City, and we're looking for something quick, filling and delicious. We found their hours and menu to accommodate so we went in. Rebecca gave us the BEST service, down to earth and real. The burgers, buffalo dip nachos, shrimp, shepherds pie & peanut butter bomb were OUTSTANDING. We will be back before heading back to STL.

Kendra M.

Yelp
Ok, food was just okay, although lots of selections on the menu. So-so service. Good bar atmosphere, fun place to go for happy hour.

Mark E.

Yelp
Had great food. Service was lacking the afternoon we were there, it got busy and our table was kind of forgotten. I would definitely go back.

Susan C.

Yelp
Terrible! Poor service, flies all around. Go for the bar and do not eat anything. Crab cakes barely passable and all you get is 1/4 cup coleslaw. Sticky tables

Colette G.

Yelp
Good food, good drinks, ehhh service. Great place to catch a game. It's right across the street from where we are staying, so that's why we ended up there. Wouldn't go out of my way to come here. It's a run of the mill sports bar & grill. Never been upstairs. Maybe that's better. We will be back. Too convenient not to get drinks here.

Becca H.

Yelp
Came here with a friend for a quick drink on a whim. They close at 2 am but for some reason last call was at 12:45 am? I didn't really understand that. The bartender was nice. The bar felt sticky and not very clean.