The Silver Fox Lounge

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The Silver Fox Lounge

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1833 Garnet Ave, San Diego, CA 92109

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Cash-only dive bar with 6 AM opening, free pool, & jukebox  

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1833 Garnet Ave, San Diego, CA 92109 Get directions

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The 22 Best Dive Bars in San Diego | Eater San Diego

"Pacific Beach is no stranger to bars, but the Silver Fox Lounge stands out as one of the neighborhood’s true OGs. Holding court on Grand Avenue since the 1970s, this beloved dive bar is a local legend, complete with a requisite pool table, jukebox, and a 6 a.m. opening time that firmly cements its spot in the dive bar hall of fame. Early risers and night owls alike flock here for (Rolling) Rock and Shot specials and the infamous $7 liquid brunch — bloody marys and screwdrivers served weekends on a well-worn leopard print carpet that’s seen more than a few good stories. Be the first to walk in at opening time and get rewarded with a “6:00 am Club” bracelet." - Kelly Bone

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Quinn Allen

Google
Hilarious, trashy, justified. Good vibes all around, pool tables are alright but free pool on some weeknights is great. Cheap as drinks. Cheapest drinks in PB and solid tenders with good vibes. Weekends it’s packed, but so is everywhere half again as costly so idk you figure it out.

Adventures & More “T”

Google
👍🏻 Was an early morning visit with a friend in the area. The new bartender is very accommodating and very personable. Not inviting for those who vape. The back rear exit is more of an escape door to the garbage 🗑 alley. The tables worked and the drinks were good.

Jerome Cooper

Google
If you like dive bars this is the venue for you. It’s got everything you need from a juke box, pool tables, and darts. It’s got good drinks it’s open at 6am until about as late as it gets. If you go early you will meet a lot of fun locals. Worth swinging through if your a dive bar fan. This place did a great job of cleaning after the pandemic but they still need to clean the air filters.

Christopher Gorrie

Google
A dive’s dive. They’ve got a couple pool tables, a jukebox, a smoking area upstairs that overlooks the street, and a very long bar. Cheap well drinks, only a semi-rowdy clientele. It’s fine for a silly night out or some quick drinks on the cheap. Nothing incredibly noteworthy about the place though. Doesn’t smell bad for a divey spot.

Hal Jurgensen

Google
The lady wanted to go a dive bar and it doesn't get more divey than this OG spot. The pool tables and locals playing are all friendly and great, prices for drinks are potentially the lowest in the area but the bartenders are great and really know their drinks. It's a great medley of people that come here but I wouldn't let that detour me from a good time.

Charles Morrison

Google
I posted this review a few months ago and reached out to the owner on their website. While over the past few months I've seen the owner reply to many of these reviews but for some reason they never replied to this one. I guess they only reply when they have a remark to say that would be considerd snarky and of a low level caliber. I never seen any responses where they took ownership of a customers issue and said they will strive to do better. I went to the Silver Fox Lounge tonight with my Government Licensed Service Dog, trained to do a specific task, and is only 7 Lbs., while being contained and carried in a satchel over my shoulder, Upon entering I was turned away due to the dog not being allowed in this establishment. I attempted to advise the Doorman, Mr. Hernandez I believe, That he is a Licensed Service Dog, I had his tag and vest, and this is a public place. Mr. Hernandez stated he didn't care because I was in a private business which is not a public space. I advised him that he is violating my ADA rights and to look it up on his phone or call his boss and make sure. He refused to do so and became very stern, repeating himself that I was in a private business and what I was telling him didn't apply at the Silver Fox. He did not want to hear anything I had to say, see anything I attempted to show him, and did not attempt to double check with anyone. He spoke aggressively and was very authoritative which almost led to an altercation after I had to put my dog back in the car and went back in to tell my coworkers that I was denied entrance and I would see them Monday.

Ahmed Tayem

Google
"Terrible Experience Every Time" We’ve visited this place three times to play pool, and every single time, there’s been an older man who calls himself “the doctor” who completely ruins the experience. He’s constantly hovering over the tables and never leaves us alone. The last time we went, we waited for 2 hours to get a table. As soon as we started our game, this man and his friend asked if they could share the table with us. We agreed to let them play, and after just 5 minutes, he finished his game and told us to leave the table! It was beyond frustrating and disrespectful. This place seriously needs to address this issue and remove this guy from the premises. My friend and I had a terrible experience every time, and we won’t be coming back until they take care of this problem.

Taylor Skibinski

Google
I had my birthday here, and while we had fun, the bartender was such a rain on my parade. She didn’t like the music we were playing so she continued to turn it down and complain to my friends about it. She also didn’t know what a Negroni was….. this is a dive bar so I should’ve known to maybe not even ask, but really?? Responding to that hilarious reply: Are you not aware that AMI music is installed into this sloppy establishment? If you’re not familiar, once you do that, that gives the guests ability to play music through the app. Therefore not leaving it up to the bartenders (if you can even call them that, considering they’re not knowledgeable on classic cocktails) to set the vibe. But don’t get me wrong, your bartenders do set a vibe! The one where I’m not so sure if they wash their hands regularly or are into things like cleaning… considering the environment they chose. Cheers

Jimmy M.

Yelp
I went to that bar for about 35 years.The owner,Sheila,was great bar owner.She was a warm hearted person.She bought many rounds. Her daughter,Julie inherited the bar.Shes fine.A structured business woman. I stopped going there about 5 years ago. No complaints.Needed a change.
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Jesse S.

Yelp
1 Star I used to love this bar. As someone who's lived in the neighborhood and made this spot a regular go-to, I'm heartbroken to say I'll never step foot in Silver Fox again. Here's what happened: I witnessed a redheaded bartender call a woman a "f*ing whore" for the simple act of lifting her drink off a pool table. Yes, really. My friend and I were sitting at the bar and immediately caught what he said -- loud, aggressive, and utterly uncalled for. In the moment, I was shocked and upset. I tossed my drink in disbelief -- barely a splash, maybe two ice cubes -- and within seconds, the bartender had the bouncer kick me out. I had no issue leaving. It was 11:30pm and honestly, I already felt deeply unsafe as a woman in that space. I've been coming to this bar since I moved here. It used to be one of my favorites. But this experience exposed a deep undercurrent of misogyny in the staff. To speak to anyone like that -- let alone a woman doing absolutely nothing wrong -- is inexcusable. This wasn't just a bad night. It was a violation of basic respect and decency. If you're a woman or care about the women in your life, I would think twice before supporting a place that condones this kind of behavior. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk!
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Jeanette S.

Yelp
It is always a good visit experience here. The staff are chill and the crowd is nice and welcoming
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Rachel W.

Yelp
This is the epitome of a dive bar. It's dark an dingy, the staff is nice but not friendly. The bathrooms are gross and there is a smoking area. Great for a shot and dip situation. Funny that they open at 6am but get it where you can.
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Lynzee H.

Yelp
This is one of my top 5 favorite bars in San Diego. Located in PB, this is more of a casual spot with less of the San Diego consortium holding vibe. There's pool tables, cheap drinks and always a crowd. You can find all age ranges here and everyone is just wanting to have a good time. The bartenders are also very nice and make strong drinks. I recommend ending your night here.
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Denise C.

Yelp
I'm soooooooo disappointed! They hired a new bar tender named Maria and she is so horrible and unprofessional . ! She not welcoming her customers service sucks and she even told me ask someone else! She has short hair and put her hand up. Because i asked her for the receipt of my breakdown of my drinks. I always ask because im a business owner for tax purposes but clearly she did not like me. So unprofessional. The security told me her name was Maria and I just can't believe they hired anyone like this!! I've been coming here since i was 26 and I'm 41. Maria can't fill big shoes! Natalie is the best!!!!

Ali J.

Yelp
Sean is hands down the worst bartender I've ever encountered. His rude, dismissive, and downright hostile attitude completely ruins the atmosphere of Silver Fox. He treats customers with zero respect and acts like he owns the place, making it feel unwelcoming and unsafe. His behavior is so unprofessional it's shocking that the management hasn't addressed it. Sean single-handedly drags this place down--if Silver Fox wants to keep its reputation, they need to seriously reconsider who they have representing them behind the bar.

Joe

Yelp
We wait 15min to some attention to seat table but staff is too bad, bartender is just chasing women, zero attention. Don't go there
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Eva H.

Yelp
Probably the best dive bar I've ever been to! Staff are lovely, drinks are CHEAP, and the bathroom was shockingly clean. Love, love, love the Silver Fox.

Jade O.

Yelp
Loved the ambiance, the bar is incredible. HOWEVER, the service is very unfortunate. The bartender with the spacers is extremely rude. We have been here before and the service was amazing, but with him, it was a different story. We felt very unwelcome from the second we walked in. Upon asking about debit/credit purchases we were met with hostility and extreme levels of condescension. Respect should be given regardless, however it felt as though a certain individual was expected and if you do not fit that mold you are unwelcome. We left immediately and headed to Cass St. super welcoming, kind environment!

Grace E.

Yelp
Take your business elsewhere tbh... Bouncer with goatee is an absolute asshole. My friend had her ID with multiple cards in purse and upon pulling them out them out she dropped a card and the bouncer didnt let her in... she was not drunk- she gave him the alphabet forwards and backwards and this bouncer continued to ride his power trip... I'd give no stars if it was an option...
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Nicole C.

Yelp
The Silver Fox is an institution! Yes, it is actually cleaner and somewhat updated recently but overall the chill atmosphere is awesome, if you treat the staff with respect they will respect you back and I always feel safe there. Plenty of cold drinks, TVs, pool tables, darts, bathrooms and a jukebox. Open 6am to 2am daily (I am assuming the 2am every day but the 6am every day is widely advertised). Let's go!

David H.

Yelp
Terrible service. Went in early in the night and got yelled at trying to order a run and coke because the bartender couldn't hear me. Definitely won't be back

Nick P.

Yelp
Whitney is actually nice. So much nicer than some other bartenders I've run into. Great place.

Scott F.

Yelp
Thomas was my Bartender best experience ever I highly recommend visiting on shift! New in town told me all the hotspots to check out! We will be back for sure and recommend our family and friends!
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Ellie H.

Yelp
Great bar, drinks are always fair priced and a great pour. They have pool tables and the bar tenders are alway so kind and provide great service.
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Cesar C.

Yelp
we recently visited Silver Fox while on "holiday" - not too busy for coming around 4ish in the afternoon - ok to bring in food? yup! awesome! first round of drinks for 3 - less than $10 - SOLD - our bartender was pretty great - there are a handful of pool tables. overall, Silver Fox is pretty great [ with a few minor exceptions ] - the regular pool players started coming around 7ish - seem a bit rude [ asking regular bar bystanders ] to get out of their way to only witness a lousy scratch shot even after using their custom cue stick.... other than that. great times, STRONG drinks and great company! cant wait to be back!

Madasyn W.

Yelp
The silver fox is not clean. If you want a $5 beer and to get kicked out at 2am on the dot in the middle of a pool game. Go there. We went to last call with a $100 bill and the dude said no. While he was pouring shots for other people. We left the bar, one of us from the group left our hoodie inside the bar and they refused to hold it for us. They have no room for people, especially anymore people than 100. The juke box is $1 per song and $2-3 for certain songs. Definitely do not recommend going here unless you want to feel squished and smell a musty smell when you walk in. Reeks of old beer and urine.
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Remington R.

Yelp
VERY unwelcoming place. Bald bartender was extremely aggressive to me and my girlfriend to the point where there was a verbal altercation seconds after walking in. Pretty unreal experience considering i was completely sober and he was slurring and reeked of alcohol. If youre looking for MINIMUM respect or good vibes, this is not the place.
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Grant M.

Yelp
Honestly this place is super small and super dirty but that's not a big deal for a dive bar... the worst part is how rude the bartenders are! I've been going to this bar routinely and I'm even posted all over their Instagram page... There is a lady bartender that's super sweet and the best. But there is a short stubby guy with a sad beard who obviously wishes his job was not serving people drinks. He goes out of his way to be rude and prove that he's the "king of his castle." Kinda sad you would wish that a bar like that would be strictly good vibes. They own another bar called the watering hole that is awesome! But the silver fox... you might want to think twice
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Jerry S.

Yelp
If you're looking for a dive bar, look no further, they have pool tables with decent enough space. Beers are very cold and inexpensive, bartenders are quick and attentive. Best dive bar in San Diego!

Hannah B.

Yelp
Amazing bar, great ambience. Cheap drinks and fun games. Brittney the artender was the best, we love her!!!!!!
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Tim N.

Yelp
The Silver Fox is a gem of a dive bar in San Diego. The place opens at 6am and closes at 2am. It always seems to have at the minimum a small group of customers any time of the day. 3 pool tables, dart board and prices that bring you back to the early 2000's is refreshing. Staff is a above average and gets the job done. Highly recommend any time of the day or night. There is no wrong way to do the right thing. The fox is always the right thing. #NappyNotes

Brooke H.

Yelp
The bouncer was the worst person I've ever met. He was sooooo rude to my friend for no reason. Don't recommend.
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Lee T.

Yelp
There was no food, but the Customerservice and the drinks were great pool tables. Good too.
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David B.

Yelp
Dive bar, bar tender friendly and fast. $5 bloody Saturday. Bathroom clean - important even in a dive bar!
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Emily J.

Yelp
Spotted--- all the coolest people in PB at this bar. Love it here omg. Drinks so cheap and so fab. the people so ahead of the times and the carpet so fun
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Lucas B.

Yelp
The place just sucks. Cool in theory, as they do have some of the cheapest drinks in PB, but the bartenders are incredibly rude and unwelcoming. They offer a "beer of the month" for only $3, but if you ask avout it prepare to be scolded and snapped at. Why even offer this if the bartenders are just gonna pout when someone orders it? I ordered 3 of them last time I was in this excuse of a bar, and was reluctantly served each time. My tab said $9, and I tipped a couple bucks, but somehow on my credit card statement I was charged $22 for this visit. This place is pathetic and dishonest. Just go somewhere else.
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Maggie L.

Yelp
I moved Pacific Beach in 1978. At that time I discovered the Silver Fox Lounge. Shelia and Tommy Meek had purchased the bar and it became a very hot spot to go to .The only underground bar in Pacific Beach. It certainly was the bar that everyone knew your name and then some.The Fox was just plain fun and safe. There were pool leagues with great competitors. They had softball teams costume parties for different occasions. Shelia would put out food for people on the holidays especially for those that didn't have anywhere to go. And, I helped talk Shelia into doing live music. Ray Correa and I were the first people to entertain there. Now, about that cheetah carpeting. I was in the furniture business and I talked Shelia into getting that carpet put in after she had done some remodeling. She was a little skeptical at first but I said you know what,do something different. Nobody else has this at the beach. Some people will hate it . Some people will love it and then some will go what the F! You all can thank me for the carpeting. As time went on, Julie took over The Fox. Julie continued to make it fun, and one of the best bars in pacific beach. She knows what she's doing.After all, she sort of grew up in that office upstairs. If you want to go to a great beach bar, go to the silver fox. If you're a fun person, you're going to have a fun time. And, in a short time, everyone will know your name.
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Samir C.

Yelp
This place is a hole in the ground and they're not ashamed of it. As it should be. The drinks are cheap. They have a couple of nice pool tables. Its a younger crowd. Reminds me of places I used to go to in the mid-west. It was difficult for me to get drinks. The bartenders consistently ignored me , serving people to my left and right. My wife had to get drinks. Other than that the place is fun.
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Anthony G.

Yelp
Thee premier dive bar in San Diego! Enjoy the cool vibes and cool drinks! Don't let the dungeon fool you, the WIFI is amazing! KCCO

Morgan C.

Yelp
My friends and I used to love this place since it normally isn't packed and the vibes are always good. That changed quickly this last time we visited. One of the older women bartenders screamed at my friends after we left a 15% tip on a tab that was from mostly bottled beers. She proceeded to harass us and followed us outside of the bar, where we were trying to order tacos and demanded that the taco man put fentanyl in our tacos. I've never been more disgusted in my life. Truly the most offensive and unnecessary thing to say especially when our country is experiencing a fentanyl crisis. This woman was out of control and went out of her way to follow us outside and negatively impact the taco man's business. We will not be coming back to the silver fox.

Aiseosa O.

Yelp
Made me recite the alphabet just to enter... wasn't even drunk.. also seemed very dead for a Saturday late night during summer
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Mark B.

Yelp
Love the Fox. Rock n shots Sunday through Tuesday get you turnt. Just ask my boy Cintron. A San Diego landmark for sure!
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Julie N.

Yelp
Voted the best dive bar in San Diego. The bartenders are excellent and the crowd is friendly. There are 2 pool tables available and music, too.

Kayla L.

Yelp
Came here tonight on my Birthday and the bald bartender was a complete A$$hole! lost our business
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Anis M.

Yelp
The Fox is awesome...one of the best dive bars I know. However the reason for only 3 stars is because of the one bartender I couldn't stop from hitting on me all night. I don't know his real name but he had some amazing drink making skills and a bad ass beard, which I complimented. However at one point he leaned in and asked me to call him "Uncle Josh" which creeped me out and I had to leave. But I'll be back...the Fox is too great to let one creeper ruin it for me ;)
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Heather W.

Yelp
i came into this with no expectations at all. In fact, i didnt even know where i was going on this past wed evening as i drove down garnet to meet a friend. phone beeps, text reads "silver fox." ah...i've never been to The Fox. and what a perfect opportunity to see it in its most natural form, midweek. From the outside this place looks quite desolate. I pass by it all the time...in all these years...and had never gone in (though that goes for 97% of PB bars). I think inside my head I pictured a few lonely souls, hunched over on bar stools in a dark & dingy rundown bar. I especially expected this on a Wed nite - the street was empty and I could park nearly right in front of it. I seriously thought the group I was meeting up with would be the only ones inside. but lo and behold....it is happenin inside! I hadn't realized it is tucked away down a flight of stairs...and the easy parking situation was most likely due to everyone being local and having the ability to walk to it. Locals to the max....and if you want to talk about non-pretentious, this is the place. Nor is it a place of the beautiful people, but I think that is one of the charms, and actually highlights. Fun characters of the evening I made mental notes of: *Massively Fake & Bake, 50 something blonde dude in white cut off jean shorts playing pool - the goal of the evening was to get a photo with him. Success, btw, as I was exiting for the evening. * Quiet Native American in back pool table, shooting by himself * Neanderthal-ish (seriously) young chap playing darts with (i assume) his girlfriend who was wearing a sequined neckline shirt. Wins trophy for most unexpected couple of the evening * Classic, undoubtably under-aged kid sitting at the bar (talk about balls) wearing baseball cap. Could not have been over 19 ...also to be noted it was about 90% male --- The random and eclectic clientele, the cheap booze, the easy-going vibe...these are all things that make me smile. I dunno, I guess I'm a dive girl at heart. You wouldn't expect it. And I'm a sucker for heterogeneousness...just keeps things unexpected and interesting. With the classic jukebox within the place, combined with people of alllll kinds, the playlist of my stay consisted of (yes, in this exact order): Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay by Otis Redding - I whistled & swayed along (luv that song) Devil Went Down to Georgia A song by Lady Gaga Some metalish, hard rock song - I mean, where do you go that you hear such diversity in one sitting? Only at The Fox, where the people range from underaged kiddo all the way to rubbery old surfer dude in cut-off white shorts.

Andrew W.

Yelp
This place is the the most friendly and welcoming bar I've been to in all of Southern California, not just San Diego. Jesse was an absolute pleasure to be around around, the drinks were good but Jesse had me feeling right at home. Friendly, energetic, and an exciting. I don't know what they're paying that man but they should be paying him more. 5/5
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Clara C.

Yelp
I'm glad I found this spot! I would come back here when I'm in San Diego again. I was really iffy about coming here at first because it wasn't bustling with people and it was farther away from the beach than the other bars. Plus, the furniture and decor make the place look really old. Even the crowd is older and generally ranged from a few late 20s to more ~30-40s. But it's ok - everyone is drunk and happy! This place looks small on the outside, but it gets spacier as you enter down the stairs. There are two restroom stalls for women (closer to the entrance) and separate stalls for men (closer to the arcade games). Parking: I parked at the grocery store parking lot across the street because it was free. The walk is not bad - maybe 5 minutes? Ruben, the bartender, is cool. He's a little older, but he's very funny and friendly. Drinks are decently priced here. They have a beer of the month that is only $2 if you go during happy hour. Each game of pool is 75 cents (I got change from Ruben). There are 3 pool tables and enough cue sticks for your entire party. The jukebox is the one advanced piece of technology that this old bar has and it is pretty cool. Each $1 gets you 2 credits, and most songs are 2 credits - even the new releases. They have songs even way back from the 50s. The dart board allows you to play games and keeps score for you, but you can just use the chalkboard on the back wall.
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Josh S.

Yelp
After five years of living in San Diego I finally made it to the Silver Fox . I've heard just about every story you can imagine about this place from friends as some have woken up and started the day drinking by 7am and some have closed the night during the ratchet hours. I was prepared for everything and anything except the hideous cheetah carpet! From the size of the bouncers at the front of the door I was expecting to see some hard core people, but as I walked down the stairs into what is referred as the "Dungeon" everyone seeming to be getting along, playing darts, and bantering at the pool tables. The second I saw the carpet and the "soft" / normal people in the bar I laughed and walked up to the bar and told the bartender that I was expecting more. She told me to come back at 6am for the real characters. This bar fits all the marks for a true dive bar and I am giving it a four because the night I went they only had one dart and the ATM wasn't working. Fun place, and food crowd. Don't be scared, just take the plunge and check it out!

Jodi A.

Yelp
Went in and wanted to sit on the patio but they don't allow drinks out there or up stairs. Kind of a weird place....bartenders suck!!!

Richard C.

Yelp
Cool spot. Bar tender was a little unwelcoming. I was probably a little cold too but only reacting to the cold welcome. I would recommend a warmer welcome at the door. All good though.... I'm a stubborn guy just like the bartender and I think we would be friends in another life lol

Kenneth A.

Yelp
Not a good place. The bouncers are super aggressive. My friends and I had been up drinking and decided to come. My friend who is actually a bartender had a drink in her hand already when she realized it she immediately took it out, still the dudes were jerks. As we were waiting for our car some 2 guys called me a fag one was a bouncer and blamed my friend for getting assaulted because she didn't want a guy touching her. This place is not the normal San Diego vibe at all.

Dave S.

Yelp
Great space, great place, great bartenders cool mix of customers. Good tunes. No food, but good, cold beverages.
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Thomas F.

Yelp
It's best to have the right expectations for this place: It's a cash only dive bar - nothing more, nothing less. The beer on tap was better than expected. Both the bartender and the people in the bar were friendly.

John L.

Yelp
Had a wonderful time when we were there. The bartender was funny and service was prompt. The clientele was LOTS OF FUN and didn't seem to mind we were of a certain age. Certain age of 66, 78 and 93!!! Even had a young lad buy us a round of drinks!!!! How kewl was that!!!!
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Layla L.

Yelp
Cool little dive bar. 3 pool tables, dart board and pinball machine. Didn't get anything to drink

Adrian B.

Yelp
Linae is super rude. If you don't like it, then eave kinda mentality from employees. When I told them there was a shard of glass in my shot, they didn't give a single F. They're not open because they don't serve food. Probably for the best.