Elephant & Co. Detroit

Great pizza. Truly classic thick crust, perfect finish on the bottom. Not too oily and just right. You'll first have to open a tab for ten dollars, scan your ID, get a wristband, and endure a demo of how wristbands work. Then you may visit the wall of beers. Ordering food from a qr code on the table will bring a very respectable pizza to your table. Be prepared to verify your card number via text before ordering. Wait times were average, and the few employees I dealt with were pleasant enough. With one exception, the guy who pounces on you the second you walk up to the beer wall. He was a bit intense. Possibly a manager or owner even? Just chill a bit, Matt. Some folks want to look over their options.

If you’re in downtown Detroit and even thinking about pizza, let me make this easy for you: Elephant & Co. is the move. Nestled right near all the big sports arenas, it’s the perfect pre-game, post-game, or honestly no-game-needed kind of spot. Let’s talk about the star of the show: that Detroit-style pizza. This isn’t your average deep dish—this is Motor City magic. The dough is a thing of beauty: crisp and crunchy on the bottom, but soft and airy inside—like a bread cloud with a little street cred. The cheese melts right to the edge for those caramelized corners you dream about, and that signature sauce? It’s bold, rich, and has just the right amount of kick. . Pair all that goodness with their self-pour tap wall featuring local brews and craft favorites? Let’s just say, you have the perfect night out. The vibe is casual, the location is prime, and the food is legit. Next time you’re catching a Tigers, Lions, Pistons, or Wings game, swing by Elephant & Co. for a slice and a sip. Trust me—your stomach will thank you louder than a Lions playoff crowd.

Amazing Detroit style pizza!!! First time trying this kind of pizza and I was left astonished. If you are someone who leaves the crust for your friends or family to eat, you would be making a grave mistake doing that here. The crust is absolutely perfect cooked in a cast iron trey. Sauce and cheese is perfect. Not too acidic and not too sweet. Correct amount of spice all over the sauce and pepperoni. You also have to get more than one beer here, the variety is plenty and unique

We came in for an early dinner this week and absolutely loved this place! Their pizza is absolutely phenomenal, some of the best i’ve had! The concept of pouring your own beer is so fun! We enjoyed being able to sample all the beers if we chose to do so. We personally think the pricing here was very decent! We each had a few beers and pizza and our tab was only approx $42! We will be back again!

I had never heard of this place before, I am so glad that I came, the pizza was absolutely delicious…not sure what cheese they use but the flavors were poppin!! The staff made sure they kept the pizza coming out. Tons of varieties of beer, I do not drink beer so I didn’t try it..the water was good though, it didn’t have that nasty taste to it. Nice chill brewery I will definitely visit again!

⭐️⭐️⭐️Fun Atmosphere⭐️⭐️⭐️ Elephant & Co in Detroit is a unique spot, perfect for those who enjoy a fun feature- self-serve taproom!! The atmosphere is chill and inviting, making it a great place to hang out with friends or family, and try a variety of beers at your own pace. The selection of drinks is impressive but the overall cost per drink is higher than average (which led to the 3/5 ranking); that said, the convenience of pouring your own and sampling different options adds to the experience. They also serve bar food and pizza, making it easy to grab a bite while you enjoy your drinks. Not sure if the inflated prices are covering the normal “tip” expectation- if so, let us know! This is my only negation to the spot. Overall, Elephant & Co is a cool place with a great vibe. If you’re looking for a fun night out in Detroit and don’t mind slightly higher drink prices, it’s definitely worth a visit!

I really enjoyed hanging out, grabbing some pizza and sampling the beer! We stopped by here before a concert at the Masonic Temple and it was great to get a bite to eat before the show. The pepperoni pizza and Granny’s Goat salad was absolutely delicious. Definitely going to stop by again if I’m in town.

This place is weird. You have to do everything yourself but you don't get paid and there is no job application. You get tagged with an RF id that lets you pour your own beer. Not my kinda place. We did not eat because we wanted to leave after the first beer and we did not want to place orders using our phones instead of talking to a server. I suppose the benefit is that no tips would be needed? I am sure some people like this. I do not. Also of you are a beer drinker into Tag-A-Brew the charms seemed to be absent we got the tag but no charm. Disappointed but we will survive.

Gift card run! I love experiences and I like to share them with my love ones. I know my son and his girlfriend will love Elephant & Co. Detroit. It's his birthday and I know with this gift card he will put it on their summer outing list. They can choose to be inside, on the large open patio outside or the cozy corner in the back. Thank you to the owner for getting me all set! Note: BOGO on Detroit-Style pizza - M-F 11am-2pm

An absolute must stop for me now! Located in the old founders building, elephant & co has all the brews, food and vibes. The beer wall? Awesome. Such an ingenious way to try different beers at your own pace and size. The food? Amazing. The pizza was delicious. The chicken salad sandwich? An unexpected home run. And those fries... just *chefs kiss* It's open seating, so keep that in mind on busier game days or night. But awesome service and food- I WILL be back soon!!!

Cool hangout before a Pistons game. Easy walk to the arena. Pizza was solid Detroit style crispy crust. Unfortunately the beer falls into an "if you can't say anything nice" category. Our group of beer enthusiasts didn't find anything good enough to warrant a full glass. Wristband by the ounce is cool in theory but ends up being pricier than buying pints. I will say I was very happy to not have to choke down a full glass of anything.

first of all this place has their own parking lot!!! It's small but it's still a nice perk since most places in Detroit don't have a parking lot. This building is pretty large and has a nice large patio area. There is also a back room which looked to be used for hosting events. They have a large beer wall which allows you to scan your wristband and pour as much or as little of the drink as you like. I like to do several small samples of beers so I found this to be amazing. I am not a fan of Detroit style pizza but there's looked really good. My friend got the street corn pizza and she said it was amazing. This place is self service. You can either go to the counter and order or order from your phone. We ordered off the food and it was quick and easy. Can't wait to come back.

This is an update to my prior review. I recently was at this location for an event, but I had a chance to try many of the beers, a cocktail, and several of the pizzas. I also got to talk with two staff members. 100% turn around on the food, the pizzas were all good to very good. No cleanliness issues. I still like about 66% of their beers-- but there was a CO issue with several of the taps on the tap wall. Staff members were also good to great.

10 out of 10, I loved everything about this place My husband and I enjoyed a date night out after attending a private event here recently. The service was incredible, the pizza was on point, and the beer wall had some great featured brews. My favorite pizza had bbq sauce, ham, bacon, and fried onion, but I also recommend the Scapegoat. The Ferndale Project Powdered Apple Paczki beer was my absolute favorite, followed closely by the Blossom Project: Orange. I love that you can pour however much you like in a cup without committing to a full glass.

We attended a Yelp! Event at the amazing downtown Elephant & Co. This was one of my favorite events of the past year. We arrived early and got to check out the super unique space. When we got in we were given wrist bands to self-pour beer from the Disneyesque automated taps. We found a very nice table in the back and enjoyed the cool elephant themed decor. After finding our seats, we grabbed a couple of slices of the deep dish cheese bread with marinara and ranch. We headed to the bar in the back and the bartender poured us a refreshing vodka gimlet. Through the night we tried an Elote (Mexican street corn) pizza, which was good, but very rich. We had an amazing slice of goat cheese, hot honey, fig and carmelized onion pizza; this is a must try. Also, we had the Honolulu blue, which had ham, bacon, pineapple, onion and barbecue sauce. This was another amazing slice of pizza. For beers, we tried some interesting selections. We tried a raspberry sour, that was pretty nice and refreshing. We had a flannel stout that tasted like s'mores. A butterfly beer that tasted like pea flower, not my favorite, but still interesting. Our favorite beer of the night was the Ferndale Project Powdered sugar apple Paczki lager. It smelled just like apple filling and was super light and refreshing. We really enjoyed our night at Elephant & Co. we will definitely be bringing friends back soon.

The variety of beer is everything!!!! My group has diverse taste and we were all pleased, from the non beer drinkers to the selective sour folks. Pizza is Detroit style, it DOES NOT disappoint. I was too excited about all the choices to take as many pictures as I usually do.

Location of this is kinda out in the middle of nowhere. Definitely not an easy spot to just stumble upon while driving around. But now that I know about it, definitely going to keep it in mind to come back to. They've got a pour-it-yourself kinda deal for approximately 40 beers on tap. Some are better than others, but there's a ton of unique flavors to choose from. They also have some think hearty Detroit style pizza. Absolutely loaded with cheese, and with a nice crispy crust too.

The Detroit style pizza was phenomenal; one of the best I've ever had! The sauce was acidic, chunky and full of tomato flavor, the dough had a nice tight crumb but wasn't dense and the cheese was very flavorful - just enough for a little pull, but wasn't chewy. The pepperoni was spicy as advertised as well, but not overwhelming. I love the pour it yourself concept and EMBC makes some pretty good beer as well. The black IPA stood out to me, but there were tons of beers to choose from: an amber ale, several IPAs, a few "North American" lagers, and a bunch of holiday themed stouts. There was even a seltzer, an NA option, wine and a pop on tap as well. Great selection and everything that I had was very good! The only thing that I didn't like was the seating. I hate communal seating and the actual bench and table were way too low for a tall guy like me. I wasn't very comfortable and I had to constantly adjust or stand up to keep my feet from falling asleep. I'll go back for the pizza and beer though! Top three spot for Detroit style, hands down.

I had never heard of this place and I am so happy that I came...the pizza was absolutely delicious...not sure what cheese they use but the flavors were poppin!! The staff made sure they kept the pizza coming out. Tons of varieties of beer, I do not drink beer so I didn't try it..the water was good though, it didn't have that nasty taste to it. Nice chill brewery I will definitely visit again!

I really like this place. Outside, were fire pits, though it was a pretty chilly night and we didn't stay outside long. Plenty of beers to choose from. I like that they have two different glass options for pouring your beer. I wanted to get a drink as well, but the bar was closed for a private event. I saw a few people by me getting pizzas- we did not get food. The pizzas looked great and the choices sounded unique. Looking forward to going back and trying the pizza along with the beers!

I wasn't for sure what to think when we arrived, the brewery had a tap and pour self serve area. Our check in person walked us through the pour system. Well I am hooked. I could do a 2 oz pour to a total of 32 oz. total. This was great 2 oz to taste and then do more if I couldn't do without it. Plus I am shy so asking for the Fruited Sour Gose Tit's Up would make me stutteredor show my tats. it is for a great cause and tasted equally great. I was with my spouse and niece and so many pours were done I couldn't keep up. So my pictures show my choices. The decor and food are unforgettable not a pun but for fun.

Great atmosphere and warm, welcoming staff! The pizza was delicious, and their beer selection was top-notch. 100% would recommend.

We had an amazing time enjoying the delicious pizza and drafts. My favorites were the pizza with the fried onions, the ranch dressing, and the White Stout on draft. The interior is bright and honors the history of the building. The elephant theme is cleverly worked in. Everyone that works there is incredibly friendly and the food was replenished quickly. We can't wait to take a few friends.

I never would have ordered the cheese, dill, garlic with pears pizza. It just doesn't sound appealing to me but I was WRONG. It's deliciousness! I'm a big fan and will return for some more of that yummy goodness.

First time I have stopped here for a couple beers on my way home from work. I had experienced the prepay wristband setup before at their Lincoln vTap location. Anyway, went to pour my first brew (see picture) and got mostly a full glass of foam I have been pouring myself beer for near 50 years so it wasn't just ignorance. can't pour the foam out because they charge you for each ounce poured. My second pour only marginally better. So maybe 2 glasses equal one beer so far. I won't go on about how sad it is the old Founders location is this now. My final try at a wristband pour got maybe 2/3 full of beer. Better, but disappointing they can't get their carbonation right. Checked out and had a bill for $19 and change for roughly 2 total pints. Plus I had to pay $1 to park when it used to be free on this street. Really Really disappointing. Also employees coming and going through the marked "Alarm will sound" gate, and no alarm. (See pic). I guess they just lie here too! I won't ever be back here. I would rather go get service and a full pour at Eastern Market or Ferndale Project or anywhere else

The pizza is hands down some of the best in the city!! The variety provides all pizza lovers with something to satisfy their tastebuds, for sure! If beer is your thing, give their craft beer a try. They have so many options you're sure to find something you enjoy. The staff were very helpful & friendly. The whole place is a vibe. I throughly enjoyed my experience and will definitely be back!

Elephant and Co. is an awesome place to experience because of its unique layout . You're essentially going to a beer party (seltzers and cocktails are available) where you can try as many unique flavors as possible without having to wait for a bartender. You serve yourself with the system they've devised, and it works out wonderfully. I tried more types of beer in my one night at Elephant than I had in the entire year leading up to that because of this system. I loved it! The Pizza is high quality Detroit style pizza. My personal favorite is the Margherita, but every slice you get is robust and I really liked the sauce they used. I also really, really enjoyed the Scapegoat pizza and had never had anything like it. I think Elephant and Co. may be my top place to bring a date in all of Midtown due to its food, affordability, and most importantly, the awesome set up of the restaurant. It makes for a very entertaining evening.

Had a great Yelp Elite Party experience here! The ambience is fun. Pizza is really good. They had several different pizzas to try. They were all really good. I like pouring my own beer tastings! Staff is knowledgeable and friendly. I will be back!

The pizza was so good. And the service is simple and easy as you order from your phone and it is brought to you as soon as it's ready. The ambiance is nice, you have the choice of sitting inside or outside and the relaxed feeling makes you feel welcome. The fungi pizza was very good but had quite a bit of roasted garlic that slightly took away from the flavor. The margarita was very nice and was quickly finished at our table. I will definitely be back to try more pizzas as well as the wall of beverage taps.

I enjoyed Elephant & C & Dayne was FUNNy & Nice! Can't wait to come back in the summer...the beers were YUM! The place was spacious & everyone was LIVELY! This was a COOL YELP EVENT. Thank You for EVERYTHING!

Went here for yelp event as I never been here and was interested in it. I'm glad I went as this place is so cool, serve your own beer as they have taps on a wall, you just pay for 32 once's and go grab a glass and fill up! They have great pizza as well, very tasty. The place is very open and roomy inside and has a very nice outside patio too with fire pits. Everyone was so nice working there and very helpful.

I've always wanted to try one of these spots with the self serve taps. It was so much fun! You get a RFID wristband loaded up with a specified number of ounces of beer. Tap your wristband to the tap and pour away...as much or as little as you want! We had a great time trying all of the different beers. They have a great variety and also have NA, seltzer, wine, and cocktail options. To top it off, their pizza is out of this world. I love EMBC's original location, but this one takes things to a new level. Tons of space, a great outdoor area, and my favorite: a shuffleboard table! Cant wait to bring friends here! This is also going to my new go-to spot for before or after an LCA event. So, so, so much better than the previous establishment in this building.

Back again! I really enjoyed eating here for a second time this week. I know i know. But this time in brought a party of 7. The beer flowed like wine. And the deep dish flowed like tasty deep dish! Get here soon and try the Elotte Pizza. Wow. Try the society pepperoni or the margarita. Wash it down with a tart or sweet beer. HOT DAMN! Greg the manager is very cool. The place over all is awesome. Keep up the great work.

I went during the soft opening; located in the old Founder's location, it's great big space with outdoor patio, private back room and large selection of drinks, all on self-serve tap. Tap Drinks are self serve with a token you scan before hand, that's attached to a credit card; you pay per oz and there is a limit before you have to recharge, to prevent over serving. it's a good way to try a bunch of different drinks but it is self service. They do have a seltzer and NA drink, and water on tap. I like the option of just having a few oz here and there but don't need to commit to a full 8 oz serving. Decent pizza - that's a crowded market especially downtown- but this a much needed unique offering in the neighborhood for pizza, beer, and a big space to hang out. I am thankful they have 2 vegan options as I am lactose intolerant and that's not always easy to find for pizza. The fungi has big garlic chunks and is much better on site than delivery, when it was kind of lukewarm. My husband had the Krab pizza, which he's enjoyed before as delivery. Kiddo like the coney pizza - really messy though! They do have gluten free option too. The pizza did have a wait, maybe that'll improve as they get into full service over the next few weeks.... We'll be back to check out the other pizza offerings and I hope to get some Donuts too, they are usually sold out at the EMBC at the market! Good place for gatherings - not sure if they'll take reservations?- but they have large table options; maybe play some cards or games or listen to live music and hang out in the patio! Small private lot, Mainly street parking Big bathrooms with many stalls but no changing tables, otherwise kid friendly with enclosed patio, with heaters and fire pits and large picnic tables. Right behind Masonic Temple.

Love the concept! Overall, I give this place 4.5 stars. The check-in process is a bit convoluted, but once you get your wrist band, you are good to go. No waiting around for servers. Awesome if you are in a hurry or worried about getting somewhere like a concert at Masonic on time. Just wave your wristband at your selected tap and serve yourself exactly how much beverage of your choice. If you want food, scan the QR code on your table and place your order. They have some of the best Detroit style deep dish pizza I've ever had!! There are a couple of negatives that I hope they improve over time. 1. The beer selection is limited and kind of expensive. They only have pretty average local beers. Several of the taps are duplicates, so it's not like they don't have room to expand the selection. 2. They cut you off at 32 ounces at which time you need a server to reset your account. This can be a huge negative. They probably do it to police people with no self control, but that's a pretty low limit.

This is a really cool concept. We came as a double date with some friends and hadn't been here since it was Founders. They changed the vibe quite a bit from Founders and I for one really appreciated it. It had a cozy back room vibe in the back and a hip bar in the front. Their beer selection was PHENOMENAL, something for everyone. The tap system was unique too and we really enjoyed being able to try a bunch of beers and pay for the small amount. The pizza was delish! We got the scapegoat and the pears with hot honey and goat cheese was so well balanced. Our literal only complaint was the wait time for foods. Ordered the bread and 1 pizza and it took a solid 35/40 minutes to come out. That being said, it was fresh and hot and delicious. Plus you can kill some time sampling beers. All in all cool place and we'll be back!

I was sad to see Founders go, but Elephant & Co. has done cool things with the space. Their pizza is amazing! I especially love the elote one and the pear one. Now that I think about it the BBQ one was super tasty too! I also love that the sauce is on the side, and they also offer a great (dilly) ranch in addition to pizza sauce. The self-serve beer selection is great, but a bit expensive once you add up the ounces (at $0.79 per ounce that's $12.64 for a pint). I wish they had flight glasses and a flight board (instead of just pint glasses) to make tasting a bit easier. They could also use some wheat beers/Belgians in their lineup, but they have more taps to fill so I hope we'll see that in the future. I'll be back soon!

Great place for pizza and beer! It was so cool that you could try any beer you want since you pour your own and you pay by the ounce. A lager came to about $8 for a pint. It was fun trying a bunch of local beers. The pizza was delicious and filling! We got the classic small pizza with a side of fries. We took home half the pizza!

The food was good took a while but hot and fresh . The service was decent not sure what green sauce is but it was edible not the best or worst pizza the bottom being burnt was upsetting . Clean place bathroom was nice . I wouldn't go back but appreciate my friend finding me a vegan pizza option

I love what they did with this space. The pizza was really good. Our favorite was the scapegoat with pear and roasted garlic. I also love that if you are more of a liquor drinker like me you can get liquor in the back bar. The beer selection is pretty expansive too. I preferred the apple paczki and my husband really enjoyed some of the dark beers. The staff was really nice especially the bartender in the back room.

I went here because I wanted to try everything they advertised to have; pizza, a wine and beer wall, coffee and doughnuts. It was about 7pm and was told that the coffee and doughnuts stopped at 3pm. Why? Without that it's just another pizza and beer place. The outside space it cute. The wine and beer selection was plentiful. The pizza was mid. I don't have a reason to go back unless they extend their coffee and pastries time. You can literally throw a rock and hit a dozen other places like this in "midtown."

As a pizza lover, I was very excited to learn of this location opening and stopped in to try it. The staff was attentive and welcoming upon entering. I like that they have pizza and beer pairings and I plan on attending one in the future. I opted to order the Spicy Pepperoni pizza. Despite the name, I did not find the spice to be overpowering. The sauce to cheese patio is well balanced. I've stopped in since to just order slices and can say the portions are amble, no matter the size of the party.

The pizza types were unique and I was really looking forward to the mushroom pizza. I have to say my carryout left a bit to be desired. The mushrooms were meaty and the drizzle on top was tasty, but the dough was hard and did not reheat too well. I have to say we may try it again. But I'm not in a rush.

If you're thinking of staying in tonight and ordering a pizza, stop right there. Go to downtown Detroit, pay $15 to park and go here instead. They'll take your credit card and give you a wristband. Then you can scan a beer, pay by the ounce, pour your own beer and go to your table. Then, scan the QR code on your table and order your pizza. The pizza will eventually come. It's good pizza and at least I didn't have to cook it myself. Don't forget to tip!

This place was great. Some competition for Buddy's in the Detroit-style pizza department. This pizza is GREAT. Crust is fantastic. Such unique flavors and toppings. Garlic bread is some of the best I've had. You get a bracelet when coming in and can then self-pour from the taps by touching your bracelet to them. All tracked to your phone number and can pay your tab or order pizza or anything else to your table at any time. Eastern Market Brewing seems to be the drink provider here. Lots of beer options and they said some ciders will be coming. So easy to pay that I ended up walking out with the bracelet, so will have to come back soon and return it! This is a must visit newer spot. Highly recommend!

Love going here for beer. Self serve - pay by the ounce. Great vibes. Busy on game days. Good for groups.

Lord give me strength , first was the 30 min line where no-one knew what was going on . When we get through we order a simple pizza - waiting waiting and still waiting - if I miss Joy Koy because of this place I will be majorly pissed , there is no- one here working and just chaos and calamity. Do yourself a favour walk a block more and go to the shipping company much less chaos , easier to get food , and the owner is there and greets you and explains what it is all about . And for those who say I should've got here earlier - we did get here way earlier . .

I was in Detroit for a few days for a game. I planned on trying as much Detroit Style Pizza as possible. As I'm wrapping up my trip, I can now say that Elephant & Co has the best pizza. I tried three well reviewed places and I'd go back here first. Good beer and great pizza. This place must jam in warm weather with its outdoor patio.

We ordered our food at our table using our phone and the QR code. The problem with replacing servers with QR codes is that they waited to tell us that they didn't have vegan cheese until it was too late to cancel and go somewhere else. They have no options for people who don't eat dairy unless you want chicken fingers and fries. A plate of plain fries is $10 and doesn't really count as dinner, so we will definitely skip this place next time.

Great place behind the Masonic Temple. Self service beer taps were easy to use. Great Caesar Salad dressing. Detroit style pizza. Very cool vibe.

Good beer selection. This place is classist and left a bad taste in my mouth and feeling in my stomach. Some of the worst pizza I've ever forced myself to eat. Tasted like they put a frozen pizza in a household oven and didn't even cook it all the way. The ranch is disturbing to me but if you like dill you like it. My friend liked his sandwhich though and he said the fries are good. My friend also wants to say thank you to the waiter and he will come back next time even though you didn't do anything.

My go-to spot before any event, game or concert in downtown Detroit! They have delicious, creative Detroit-style pizza. The salad is a great grab as well. But really it's the beer wall that gets me! They offer an assortment of different style beers (along with a few wines, N/A and seltzer options) from Eastern Market and Ferndale Project. You get a wrist band and can serve yourself. Pour a full glass or just a sip - it's fun stuff if you like trying different brews. If you get there early enough, don't sleep on the vegan donuts. I don't like donuts but these are sneaky good and don't make you feel gross like a normal donut does. There is also a lil Detroit-themed market with some cool items!

Truly impressive pies. The spicy pepperoni was one of the best pizzas I've ever had, and may have been the best Detroit-style. Crust is insanely crisp but the pizza still has the perfect chewiness that's hard to duplicate. The spice level was perfect. Loved it. Margherita was very good. Whipped ricotta and garlic were interesting flavor additions. Enjoyed it, but spicy was definitely the favorite. The venue itself is awesome: great outdoor seating, but nice options inside too.

I can't wait to get back to this place. The pizza was amazing, the beer was also great and there was a wide selection. It's a self-pour place that uses a fab you wear around your wrist that tracks your drinking and updates your bill. Overall easy to use and to pay your bill.

My brother and I have been to Elephant & Co. in Detroit a couple times now, and we both love it. Love the variety of beers, and the fact you can pour yourself just a taste of beer, or a good sized glass full. Also, love the interesting pizza choices. What we have tried has been excellent. Staff has been friendly and helpful when we had questions. Space is big enough that you can feel comfortable and not packed in. Definitely a place you must try. Thanks for opening in the old Founders Brewey space. Amelia 3/5/2025

Once you do it the first time it's probably fine, but we wouldn't go back for a second time. Waitstaff didn't help. No idea how to use any of the taps, no idea how anything works. Menu is very limited. Meh at best.

We enjoyed the self pour tap wall. My wife could try small amounts until she found what she liked. The pizza compares to some of the best Detroit style pizza I've had. An over-all great experience!